Why do people do this?
It's either people talking about themselves, or people trying to correct your grammar/pronunciation.
Why? Maybe an ego thing ... ?
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It goes like this
Person A: Talks about their going on vacation
Me: I tell them I am going on vacation to a nice place
Person A: Well, that's awesome (Either walks away or wants to talk about something else)
I notice this just about every time I even try to socialize with people, no matter what it is.
For instance, I have friends who like to shop at goodwill and happened to show off what they were wearing. Yet, when I brought it up, I got "That's cool."
I don't know if I am using offputting body language or come off awkward yet
Person A: Talks about their going on vacation
Me: I tell them I am going on vacation to a nice place
Person A: Well, that's awesome (Either walks away or wants to talk about something else)...
Maybe they were bragging to you about their vacation, and when you indicated that you would also take a vacation, they thought that bragging to you would be a waste of effort.
He: "I spent a week touring Rome, the Vatican, and the Sistine Chapel."
Me: "I spent a week touring Israel, Jerusalem, and the Church of the Holy Sepulcher."
He: "Awesome! <* He walks away or changes the subject *>
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I notice that when I talk to people anymore, conversations seem to be one-sided where they talk about themselves but if you mention anything it's "That's cool," "That's awesome," "Oh wow."
I get this, too. I will want to talk about something that I think is interesting but I just get “Oh, that’s cool.” or “I don’t know anything about that.” while those same people will then talk about football, cars, beer, tattoos, and guns for hours on end.
I notice that when I talk to people anymore, conversations seem to be one-sided where they talk about themselves but if you mention anything it's "That's cool," "That's awesome," "Oh wow."
I get this, too. I will want to talk about something that I think is interesting but I just get “Oh, that’s cool.” or “I don’t know anything about that.” while those same people will then talk about football, cars, beer, tattoos, and guns for hours on end.
That's actually a little different. In Twilight's exambles, she brought up subjects the others had also talked about, yet they stopped being interesting when she brought them up. If you bring up different subjects than what the people around you talk about, then it's not weird at all if people don't know of them or aren't interested.
I have a friend who does this. We might talk about his new bike tyes for 5 minutes but say I mention that I'm cycling to Botswana next week he will be like.
" That sounds like fun....I might change the cables on my red bike, so and so said I could borrow his trailer"
I just let them waffle on until I'm overloaded and then I have to kick him out, which takes forever.
I put up with it because we do stuff together.
I'n guessing that you respond to their news before telling them yours.
I notice that when I talk to people anymore, conversations seem to be one-sided where they talk about themselves but if you mention anything it's "That's cool," "That's awesome," "Oh wow."
I get this, too. I will want to talk about something that I think is interesting but I just get “Oh, that’s cool.” or “I don’t know anything about that.” while those same people will then talk about football, cars, beer, tattoos, and guns for hours on end.
Markins,
In your case, it sounds like asking about them -
1. What do they like about guns?
2. What inspired them to get that tattoo?
3. Ask them what their interests are? That way you open yourself up to them know them and vice versa.
4. Ask them if they like anything other than football, cars, tattoos
5. Since you work at a library, see about reading everything you can on those items so you have a book to recommend to them.
Find some groups that hold shared interests such as an anime group or something you like where there is not going to be lots of drinking.
my guess is that they only see you as someone to listen, who will ask questions, help them get their thing out and boost their ego.
but they dont respond because they didn't approach u with a genuine social intention in the first place.
( i had friends like this so i know what its like )
i think NTs dont bother investing further energy in a person (apart from what makes them feel good for unloading an anecdote/bragging/complaining/ego) if the person isn't going to contribute to their social currency. (its a guess maybe not true)
you have to kind of push through, perhaps? like 'okay, now let me tell you about MY XYZ thing'
like if u phrase it like that (i learned this phrasing from my mom when i complained to her about this same thing)
then they are obliged by rules of politeness to listen, since u already tossed it in their, with no choice
'now let me tell you'"
'i have to tell you something about my vacation too'
'speaking of ___, that reminds me, this thing happened i have to tell you'
'okay i wanted to ask you about something, this happened, what do you think'
etc.
(that also flatters them in a way - since you are showing them that their attention matters to you )
like ur forcing them to listen, not waiting for them to ask further and show interest.
what then happens (as my mom and various 'friendship' type books she gave me to read as well as articles i read and from observing this happen in sitcoms and movies)
they then over time are getting to know you, and then what happens is, then questioNS ABOUt YOU begin occurring to them. curiosity , interest, especially if they see u regularly enough. courtesy, at the very least. it helps a rapport begin.
i only succeeded with this type of thing online at first, MSN chat , forums, till i got it ingrained in me enough to wear i could do it in the moment.
i kept trying, took me years to actually say wht was in my head, to come out of my mouth, but now i ccan do it.
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if they say something like , oh i dont know about that
then u say, really? and sell it to them
'you'd love it!"
'i HAVE to tell you this, since u mentioned that'
'why? is it because ___? ok because actually ___"
etc
if they say 'Oh wow.'
go out of your way (beyond ur natural way)
and say,
"Yeah! And do you know what ? ____!" etc. like not just leave their words hanging in the air, respond to it in a way that u can tell ur story/view as well.
it's all about edging ur way in and kind of keeping things going. like a tennis game
i observed a lot, was told a lot (explicitly by my mom and XH) ,
watched tv shows with the intention of learning how they kept conversation going , read books, etc.
began using it first on forums (you're anonymous AND have time to think before writing AND can observe how others respond to each other)... the makeupalley forum actually
it might get absorbed in your head enough to give u the confidence to say it.
and if u keep doing that, then it will become a bit easier.
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then u say, really? and sell it to them
'you'd love it!"
'i HAVE to tell you this, since u mentioned that'
'why? is it because ___? ok because actually ___"
etc
if they say 'Oh wow.'
go out of your way (beyond ur natural way)
and say,
"Yeah! And do you know what ? ____!" etc. like not just leave their words hanging in the air, respond to it in a way that u can tell ur story/view as well.
it's all about edging ur way in and kind of keeping things going. like a tennis game
These are good tips, I'n goiing to try them out. As things stand my friend and I aren't really conversing, just taking turns to talk ar each other.
but they dont respond because they didn't approach u with a genuine social intention in the first place.
( i had friends like this so i know what its like )
i think NTs dont bother investing further energy in a person (apart from what makes them feel good for unloading an anecdote/bragging/complaining/ego) if the person isn't going to contribute to their social currency. (its a guess maybe not true)
you have to kind of push through, perhaps? like 'okay, now let me tell you about MY XYZ thing'
like if u phrase it like that (i learned this phrasing from my mom when i complained to her about this same thing)
then they are obliged by rules of politeness to listen, since u already tossed it in their, with no choice
'now let me tell you'"
'i have to tell you something about my vacation too'
'speaking of ___, that reminds me, this thing happened i have to tell you'
'okay i wanted to ask you about something, this happened, what do you think'
etc.
(that also flatters them in a way - since you are showing them that their attention matters to you )
like ur forcing them to listen, not waiting for them to ask further and show interest.
what then happens (as my mom and various 'friendship' type books she gave me to read as well as articles i read and from observing this happen in sitcoms and movies)
they then over time are getting to know you, and then what happens is, then questioNS ABOUt YOU begin occurring to them. curiosity , interest, especially if they see u regularly enough. courtesy, at the very least. it helps a rapport begin.
i only succeeded with this type of thing online at first, MSN chat , forums, till i got it ingrained in me enough to wear i could do it in the moment.
i kept trying, took me years to actually say wht was in my head, to come out of my mouth, but now i ccan do it.
Thanks, I will try this
Person A: Talks about their going on vacation
Me: I tell them I am going on vacation to a nice place
Person A: Well, that's awesome (Either walks away or wants to talk about something else)
I notice this just about every time I even try to socialize with people, no matter what it is.
For instance, I have friends who like to shop at goodwill and happened to show off what they were wearing. Yet, when I brought it up, I got "That's cool."
I don't know if I am using offputting body language or come off awkward yet
Somehow I can really relate to that but in another way. In a conversation I would want to contribute, as otherwize I sit there getting bored. Yet if I get bored and leave, they maybe offended if I go to do other things.
But if I try to join the conversation, I either get blanked as if what I said does not matter somwhow, or I get like you get as if one is a small child who they assume is not capeable to join in the conversation, or I get told off for not letting others speak. (Yet I have not reached the point that I was going to say... Not that I can remember what it was!
But yes. I can get the same. One feels like one is treated as if one is a small child of about six? But at least children are given a biscuit or soething to keep them quiet! Where's my biscuit?
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