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Summer_Twilight
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03 Nov 2021, 12:03 pm

Hi:
I wanted to talk about something that has been on my mind and that's in regards to feeling like an outsider. Though I have talked about my frustrations on here for many years, someone just clicked.

First of all, I have people who seem like we get along and still love me. That said, I am never invited to be part of their most inner circle if you know what I mean. Therefore, they don't call or text me to see how I am doing, they don't invite me to major life events, etc. Yet, I always see them on social media or they talk about getting together.

Meanwhile, I am the outsider because it means despite loving me and liking me, I am at the bottom of their list. While understand why, I still find it very hurtful because I would like to be more involved. Yet, I don't want to scold them for this and nor do I want to chase them.



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04 Nov 2021, 6:13 am

Can relate.

I think I'm just hard work to be around. I like to get deep into things and people don't seem to want to do that. I struggle with what I see as banal conversation and that seems to be most people's comfort zone. I challenge people on their prejudices and lazy thinking - and I really try to do this without being confrontational or judgemental but people in general do not like to be challenged at all.

I've been told I'm intense and serious, which I probably am in company, but I'm actually quite silly. It just takes a looooong time before I'm comfortable enough to be silly in front of people. I think if I could show this silly side a bit more in company I might be more fun to be around but it's like that part of my brain shuts down in company.

So I think that socialising with people who aren't hard work is probably easier and more fun. I feel like I'm tolerated by people, generally, but yes no-one would ever text me and say "Hey, want to catch up/do something?"


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04 Nov 2021, 6:17 am

Summer_Twilight wrote:
Hi:
I wanted to talk about something that has been on my mind and that's in regards to feeling like an outsider. Though I have talked about my frustrations on here for many years, someone just clicked.

First of all, I have people who seem like we get along and still love me. That said, I am never invited to be part of their most inner circle if you know what I mean. Therefore, they don't call or text me to see how I am doing, they don't invite me to major life events, etc. Yet, I always see them on social media or they talk about getting together.

Meanwhile, I am the outsider because it means despite loving me and liking me, I am at the bottom of their list. While understand why, I still find it very hurtful because I would like to be more involved. Yet, I don't want to scold them for this and nor do I want to chase them.


You too? I feel like a pet dog at times who is supposed to sit and e there but is not supposed to talk...


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04 Nov 2021, 6:23 am

I'm an outsider as well.

I've got so used to it that it's normal for me. I kind of like it that way to be honest. I guess it's part of my identity now. I don't know whether tharts right or wrong but it's just the way it is for me.


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04 Nov 2021, 7:13 am

babybird wrote:
I'm an outsider as well.

I've got so used to it that it's normal for me. I kind of like it that way to be honest. I guess it's part of my identity now. I don't know whether tharts right or wrong but it's just the way it is for me.



This too. Lone wolfing through life has become normal to a certain extent.


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04 Nov 2021, 10:57 am

I have always felt like an outside -- except in the circles of friends I managed to create that consisted of fellow outsiders.


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04 Nov 2021, 11:05 am

Even when surrounded by people, friends, family, i have always been in my own mind, all my life, an individual, who is disconnected.


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04 Nov 2021, 11:17 am

It also happens to me; unfortunately that's one of the side effects of having Aspergers. I have found most people don't
differeniate between severe autism and aspergers.



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05 Nov 2021, 8:11 am

I have periods where I am fine but others I cry about it



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05 Nov 2021, 1:13 pm

Aspinator wrote:
It also happens to me; unfortunately that's one of the side effects of having Aspergers. I have found most people don't
differeniate between severe autism and aspergers.


That can be part of it, rather, I am referring to people who are excited to see us and enjoy spending time with us when we are around. However, we are not at the top of their list because we are on outer circle of friends based on proximity levels.

However, there are circumstances where those people like us and would love to include us in events but have other close friends who don't feel comfortable having us in the group because they don't understand us or like us. Meanwhile, those people are too afraid to set boundaries with their other friends because they are afraid of losing their close friends. Therefore, being left out is an option.