Too rational/too logical?

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NTs never say what they really think. Mostly because they rarely think. They say what they are taught to say and do what they are taught to do, and the two rarely agree. Hint: Don't look for a rule in social interaction. Or in politics. Or in anything. There aren't any objective, standard rules. It's not what you do or say, but who you are. In any given situation, the alpha-person makes the rules and changes them at will. If the rules suit him at the moment, he might quote them at you. If they don't suit him, you can't quote them at him. They'll just call you "inflexible" or say that you "take everything literally." This "common sense" that everyone keeps talking about is nothing more than following the herd.

Yes, your looks are worth a few points. Looks, brains, money, social abilities, connections... Who gets to be the boss depends on a bunch of things, sometimes including practical abilities and knowledge.

Yep. We are not a disease. We are the cure. But good luck telling the masses about that.

I wouldn't call you a racist, but insensitivity can sometimes be irrational. Old cultures are mostly worth keeping, especially when you can't offer something better. (Current western culture sucks -- they're better off running naked through the rain forest.) You can often point to certain elements of a culture that are bad, like the male-chauvinism in some Spanish cultures, or the alcoholism in some Italian families. But mostly it's worth keeping. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I thought it was we who had to be taught what to say or do. I thought they just flowed with the situation naturally and intuitively.



I see the last sentence as being akin to "If horse carriages work, don't invent automobiles."

The way I see it, the cream will rise to the top, and the best aspects of all cultures will endure when you mix and mash them all together. That is, unless the meddling hand of social engineering intervenes.

People don't like it when you have something over them. People on the autistic spectrum seem to be a lot more rational and logical than normal people, so they resent it and thus, out of insecurity, they'll attack you.

The only thing they do "naturally and intuitively" is follow the leader. Whoever is in charge fills their heads with "rules" that make no sense. We can't figure it out because we are looking for rational rules, which do not exist. So they kindly try to clue us in with lies and crazy talk.

I want rules that are standardized and follow some kind of logic, like a math puzzle or traffic regulations. You see a red light, you stop -- the rule applies to everyone equally, with specific exceptions that make sense. We have a rule against parking in front of someone's driveway. It doesn't matter who you are. If the mayor parks in front of my driveway, he is simply braking a rule. Who he is shouldn't matter. (What I want and what I get are not the same thing. Our "nation of laws" is a pipe dream.)

Not exactly. Just don't force them to give up their horses until they have the infrastructure. A car isn't worth much in a neighborhood with no gas stations or repair shops.

That would be so nice. Unfortunately, in the real world, the crap rises to the top, until you find yourself with a psycho who considers himself to be the emperor of the universe. The legal mass murders over the past eight years is over a million, and still growing.

I wonder if Joe Neurotypical would blow up inside if he were pent up by any imposed need to be rational all the time.

Absolutely. It will never work.

Forcing people to all march to the same drummer never works. The use of Oppression and tyrany just makes them mad. That's why this whole idea of a world government is inherently evil. Even if the goals seemed rational on the surface, the methods of imposing those goals would, of necessity, be so brutal that we would never get around to the part with the good intentions. Ghandi himself could never make it work. Then again, I'm sure he would know better than to try.

If a decent person were to accidentally inherit that kind of power (cough-Obama-cough)
the only sensible thing to do would be to destroy it as quickly as possible, in a way that would prevent it from ever happening again. Like Frodo, throwing the One Ring back into Mt. Doom. (I have a sneaking suspicion that it's not going to happen, and that we're all screwed.)

Are politicians and law enforcement not an arm's length apart in your (or any) part of the world? Letting them have direct influence over one another has the hallmarks of an autocracy. Politicians are supposed to serve, not rule, the people.....right?

Mind you, the mere existence of a presidential pardon has me questioning this notion for what is supposed to the the leader of the "free and democratic world" that is the USA.

Where? If you see one, let me know. They threw ours away years ago.
Most of us are living under marshal law. We have no rights at all.

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/arey ... ezone.html
(Scroll down for a map of our "Constitution Free" zone.)

So much about me too.
But I figured at one point why people talk about things without actually asking for advice. Ask yourself : do you do that? I do. Because I want to reflect on some problem.. that is it. Yes I tend to reason and give advice. But I always try to stop myself. Because just from sheer reasoning I know: they do not want advice. They just want to have a listener. This is like (am sorry for comparison) my cat: she mews and wants some food. So I give it it her. I figured when she does that because that she is hungry and when she does that because she is bored. So I give to her what she wants...

RationaLogical approach topic

A tautology, perhaps: consistent use of the R/L approach means never having to say you are tory.