if you say something over and over again

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people start believing it? do you think this is true? and why is the word lie in believing or am i just spelling it wrong? yes i am super paranoid this morning but it would seem to make sence. just look at christmas for example. i bet if you told people the truth they would give you dirty looks and and say there gonna pray for you. well?

this thread also applies to the war on terrorism how do you think george gets away with it? he sais it over and over again, that how

LOL - whenever I hear these management goofballs say "there is no "I" in team," I want to scream "And there is no "We" in team, either!!"

You are not spelling it wrong, but it is a coincidence that the 3 letters that spell lie (a very short word) come together in believe.

According to dictionary.com, the word came from the Middle English word bileven:
[Origin: 1150–1200; ME bileven, equiv. to bi- be- + leven]

so originally, it contained the words 'bile' and 'even' (again, coincidences, I think, although some believers have a lot of gall).

Christmas is from Christmass, or the Mass (ceremony) of Christ. One s got chopped off, but it is still easy to see how that word was derrived. But in other cases, the way that we might break down a word is not related to where it came from, and trying to break it down leads to wrong ideas.

The people that irritate me to no end are from the Yahweh-ben-Yaweh cult. Their leader is in jail for murder, and they worship him as the messiah. They try to break words apart and put them together to support their ideas, but to anyone who has studied words, what they do makes no sense whatsoever. They might as well cut apart the letters in a parking ticket and re-arrange them to say "This is my pardon from the governor."

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if the word came from the middle east i know it was no coincidence. most of the worlds religions come from there and suprise suprise in order to be a member you have to believe, what im saying is im not shocked. i see a direct correlation between the word and most of the worlds problems

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I have heard that subconsciously, if you repeat certain things to yourself, your brain starts believing it, even if you actively know it's wrong. I don't know how that works; it might just be the brain's ability to work off of repetition. But it's both good and bad. You can use that techniqute to motivate yourself, I guess.

oh sorry i mistakenly confused the word middle english for middle east heh.

Yeah, on one level, the brain processes images and sounds and thoughts with out evaluating whether they are true or not. That is why/how advertising works. Many day to day decisions are less rational than people believe. It also explains why cognitive therapy can help with many behavioral conditions like anxiety - by visualizing or repeating relaxing thoughts, these thoughts are more likely to be expressed and calm the body.

Which is not to say that cognitive therapy for anxiety is as fast or effective in the short-term as a relaxing medicine. But long term, such mind-based therapies can be good.


No problem, I thought so.

Of course it's true, why do you think brand preference works? Or marketing at all? It all works on repition.

You and other people will start to believe that it's true. It happens everyday.

Wasn't it Hitler who said something like that?

Either way yes its true a lot of the time.

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I believe it was Joseph Goebbels, who I think was his administrator of propaganda. The knowledge itself was also quote by Vladimir Lenin, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth."

That's funny though. Commercials rarely provoke me enough to buy their products. I only buy products if I need them. Although I guess that could be explained by the fact that I find most advertisements to be irritating rather than interesting.