Report: Fox most balanced in reporting on candidates
I've seen these types of games played all the time where conservative commentators have a single line that, taken out of context, means the opposite of what they were saying to create false outrage. O'Reilly was clearly attacking Sen. Edwards on a false generalization in which he was blaming President Bush's economic policies for homeless veterans as a part of his whole "two Americas" spiel.
As for the numbers, they didn't come from "O'Reilly's" guy. They came from a Democrat he invited on. I don't know why the numbers came up different from your source, but it could just be a matter of who you're counting (I suspect he was only including the chronically homeless and not those that pass through a shelter for a few months).
He probably got it from this report from the Heritage Foundation.
Also, my source is cited. Check again.
I've seen these types of games played all the time where conservative commentators have a single line that, taken out of context, means the opposite of what they were saying to create false outrage. O'Reilly was clearly attacking Sen. Edwards on a false generalization in which he was blaming President Bush's economic policies for homeless veterans as a part of his whole "two Americas" spiel.
As for the numbers, they didn't come from "O'Reilly's" guy. They came from a Democrat he invited on. I don't know why the numbers came up different from your source, but it could just be a matter of who you're counting (I suspect he was only including the chronically homeless and not those that pass through a shelter for a few months).
Hmm, here's a link to the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans. Here's their stats
23% of homeless population are veterans
33% of male homeless population are veterans
47% Vietnam Era
17% post Vietnam
15% pre Vietnam
67% served three or more years
33% stationed in war zone
25% have used VA Homeless Services
85% completed high school/GED compared to 56% of non-veterans
89% received Honorable Discharge
79% reside in central cities
16% reside in suburban areas
5% reside in rural areas
76% experience alcohol, drug, or mental health problems
46% white males compared to 34% non-veterans
46% age 45 or older compared to 20% non-veterans
Service needs:
45% help finding job
37% finding housing
Huh, surprising amount are from Nam. So, with 76% with addiction or mental illness, Califano might have been overstating his case (or, as the book was published sometime is 2007, the treatment programs may simply have been very effective. I doubt that though, as the site lists the same average number of homeless veterans.)
Regarding Califano's inaccurate figures, here's a link to a review of the book he was promoting in the transcript. Apparently he`s been caught distorting figures before.
He probably got it from this report from the Heritage Foundation.
Also, my source is cited. Check again.
So you did, should have looked harder. And thanks for finding the Heritage Foundation report
Now, I`m going to argue that O`Reilly purposely invited a person known to distort his figures in order to make his critisms of Edwards look more convincing then they are, to which I suspect you will accuse me of liberal bias, which I admit is a possibility. Basically a stalemate. So I figure, how about I try to do another youtube attack and you try to rebut me? That`s the best way I can think of for either of us to argue our points. I promise that I`ll try to stay away from the flat out mean stuff.
Also, I`ll admit I was hasty to accuse O`Reilly so strongly. IMO he`s strongly biased, and that he frequently spins the facts, but saying he doesn`t care about the troops was wrong, and I apologize.
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Was flicking thru the channels one day and came accross O'Reilly's BS fest. Now I know why I prefer Sky. BTW, don't these 'tards realise even honest journalism is an anachronism? All they are is a bunch of parasites feeding off the flesh of the public carcass at the public's expense. Bill O'Reilly..... if only the famed test cricketer from Australia knew this a**hole had the same name, he'd turn in his grave. And Rush Limbaugh? Bill Hicks was right - he is a scatmuncher...
Besides, US politics is dead boring; what's wrong with 6 week campaigns like we have here?
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