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Should gays be allowed to serve in the US military openly??
Poll ended at 04 Sep 2008, 6:54 pm
No they should not be allowed 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes they should be allowed 100%  100%  [ 12 ]
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23 Aug 2008, 2:36 am

No, you don't have to have political sway, Ben --be the next break-through in science!!
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23 Aug 2008, 2:44 am

Quite a deal easier, I made the really bad mistake of never applying for more than just one internship (which I, of course, didn't get). Generally, when you get an internship with a place, it's really easy to come back after you graduate for a full-time job with the company without further, typically long and stressful interviews. There's also a program as Oregon State University called MECOP (might be at other universities, too), where you intentionally take 5 years instead of 4 to get your degree, spending the extra time in an internship with a company like Boeing or FEI (they make electron microscopes and the like).

My job search is going just as usual, applying for many jobs, but rarely ever hearing anything back. However, I recently just got offered a great deal from South Dakota School of Mines and Technology. Pretty much, starting in January, they're going to pay me near-engineering wages (I don't think it's good to mention specific numbers) to help the professors research biofuels while I get my PhD in Chemical or Bio Engineering (probably going to focus on non petroleum-based plastics derived from biofuels & their side products).



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23 Aug 2008, 2:47 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Averick wrote:
I thought that ADHD would be a positive asset in certain parameters, like combat. But what the heck do I know, right?

Please do go to school, and please do something about those nasty chemical corporations because of how they are destroying the natural strains of crops we have today. I was talking to a guy-friend and he was telling me about how standardized farming methods are destroying the environment (and his family's farm.) Now I get really upset when I think about the DOW chemical company. :evil:


That would be a government job. For me to get an elected job, I would have to keep explaining why I was hospitalized for 2 weeks in 2002 and why I was wrongly fired and banned from Wal-Mart in 2007. Engineers have as much sway in how things are run upstairs as the technicians do - it's not their business, just design, form, and test.


Actually, engineers (most prominently Chemical/Process and Mechanical for companies like DOW and Georgia Pacific) are the ones that tend to end up going into management within 5-10 years, and eventually become the VPs. My friend with whom I graduated is now a Process Engineer with Georgia Pacific, she'd go through the pictures of people that graduated 15-20 years ago that are now VPs with GP.



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23 Aug 2008, 3:21 am

I tried to join when I was 24, but having flat feet and ADHD and dyslexia disqualified me, I really want to serve in PPCLI like my dad and uncle, personally I think anyone, regardless of orientation should be allowed to serve.



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23 Aug 2008, 3:35 am

This is actually a tough one, my opinion on this has changed quite a bit from my younger days. The whole idea behind the ban on gays (and formerly women) is that sexual tension decreased the efficiency of a fighting unit, and that is true. The purpose of a military being to fight wars and not an employment program, they should be free to choose their personnel in such a manner that produces the most effective fighting force possible, if that means excluding some people so be it. Don't ask don't tell is a compromise to allow gays to serve their country without compromising combat effectiveness, it may not be fair, but we are talking about warfare here. Women are still barred from certain special forces units such as the Navy SEALS because even if they were physically capable their presence alone would compromise the effectiveness of the unit. If they can bar women, they can bar gays.

I myself am disqualified from service due to my meds, though I possess many skills that would be valuable to a combat unit. I also happen to know enough about myself to realize that I couldn't deal with the discipline and routine, so it's not a huge deal for me, I find other ways to serve my country.


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