Is this a criterion of truth?

Post Reply New Topic

Human knowledge is ever expanding and it expands most surprisingly when what is considered indisputable truth is discovered to not be so. There are now in existence more minds open to questioning the indisputable than ever before and making it not only disputable but very fertile ground for upsetting all sorts of applecarts. It's called progress.

Verification isn't really possible - if you talk about all circumstances (or in particular, the laws of physics past the event horizon of a collapsed star or as something with mass approaches the velocity of light. Newtonian laws then become a subset of a larger system of laws.)

Whether something is disputed or not has little bearing too.

My opinion is that there is an absolute structure underlying reality, truth as it may be called, and it enables science to exist. If there were no order and no truth, then science would be a pointless aim.

When a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound?

Wow...

Truth is absolute and holds no dependence on understanding or even possible understanding.

hu·bris [hyoo-bris, hoo-]
–noun
excessive pride or self-confidence; arrogance.

If this were true then the universe did not start until mankind figured it out, or that reality is limited by the biochemical reactions housed in a 6 lb chunk of meat. Humans are nothing more than a complex chemical reaction, or the furthering of the eventual Entropy death of the universe.

Yes
And No.

It produces waves in the air, yes, but there has to be something there to convert those waves into electrical nerve impulses, or, digital electrical signals, if you will, in order to interpretate those as sound, as we feel them, meaning, to be there or recording them to be able to perceive subjectively. Of course that would depend on the definition of sound.

You would be correct in physics being indisputable truth due to lack of ability for verification.


I think it would depend on perspective. Example...The christian truth: The existance of God cannot be disputed by fact. My truth...The existance of God cannot be verified by fact. (My own little private paradox, I used to spin in )


I rather like your opinion of the truth.

In my mind.. the truth is a manner of thinking.. or speaking.. that contains no error.

It is to have the abilty to speak perfectly.. without flaws.

In this world.. those who speak religious truths.. are mostly hated... and treated as out-casts.

As Jesus said: "They hated me without cause."

The truth is often that which causes offence to the world.

The truth is the greatest enemy of organized religion..... and the state.


The truth is that we should treat others as we would wish to be treated ourselves.

And that this will result in our "salvation".

Do that.. and nothing else is necessary.


That's what the truth is.......

-----

“The very law of truth proved to be in his mouth, and there was no unrighteousness to be found on his lips. In peace and in uprightness he walked with me, and many were those whom he turned back from error.”


"'In the gate they have hated a reprover, and a speaker of perfect things they detest.”

Malachi 2:6 + Amos 5:10

-

gate = the earth (which is understood as being - the gate-way to the next life)

I don't believe that truth is relative. Truth is an innate feeling that each one of us was given at birth. It's a reminder of who we really are and where we came from, but most importantly it reminds us why we are here. Listen to it or be a puss and follow the norm.

Aside from atheists, I have never heard anything similar to "The existence of God cannot be disputed by fact." I have seen my dad raised from the dead (probably so that he would die in the hospital rather than at home as he did the first 2 times), I have been "slain in the Spirit" as it is called which is rather interesting how that is (first the muscles of ones limbs slack and then you lose consciousness for a while). Anyway, aside from personal experience, history and the Messianic prophecies in the Tanakh are also reasons why I'm a Christian.

I guess I am just confused since the atheist would claim God does not exist regardless of fact. But I am unable to agree with the atheist or Christian so I will not argue your point.