01 Sep 2008, 1:16 pm
skafather84 wrote:
Orwell wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
let's hear it for shotgun weddings!!
OK, so I suppose they are going for family values after all... hillbilly style.
they're going strong after the midwest vote.
They already had the midwest... you think midwesterners are voting for a black man? Seriously, I grew up around a fairly racist area. Running a black man will hurt the Democrats in parts of the Midwest.
As an aside, though, my GRANDPARENTS are voting for Obama.
They're both extremely conservative, have voted straight Republican tickets their entire lives, and now my grandma has an Obama t-shirt and my granddad is against the war in Iraq. The Republicans must have really screwed up badly to lose two people who have been loyal straight-ticket Republicans since they started voting 60 years ago.
This does not look like a good year to be a Republican.
01 Sep 2008, 1:18 pm
Orwell wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Orwell wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
let's hear it for shotgun weddings!!
OK, so I suppose they are going for family values after all... hillbilly style.
they're going strong after the midwest vote.
They already had the midwest... you think midwesterners are voting for a black man? Seriously, I grew up around a fairly racist area. Running a black man will hurt the Democrats in parts of the Midwest.
As an aside, though, my GRANDPARENTS are voting for Obama.
They're both extremely conservative, have voted straight Republican tickets their entire lives, and now my grandma has an Obama t-shirt and my granddad is against the war in Iraq. The Republicans must have really screwed up badly to lose two people who have been loyal straight-ticket Republicans since they started voting 60 years ago.This does not look like a good year to be a Republican.
wow. are they both stuck in the more midwest/racist mentality? are they like "that young negro baraka obama sure speaks good!" ?
sorry, kind of a curiosity. morbid, i'm not sure...but most of my interests do end up being morbid to some extent....
01 Sep 2008, 1:26 pm
01 Sep 2008, 1:30 pm
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01 Sep 2008, 1:32 pm
Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue? 
01 Sep 2008, 1:34 pm
LeKiwi wrote:
Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue?
because 8 years of white trash in the oval office is more than enough.
having legit backwoods trash in office in any capacity would be horrible.
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01 Sep 2008, 1:38 pm
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Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue?
it is an issue because the lady backs and preachs the Republican party meme of "teach only abstinence" and eschew any type of sexual education of contraceptives or STD information because that will only "put ideas in their heads."
children being pregnant is the result of such 'abstinence only" policies.
this is why people see it as an issue. They feel the policy is faulty.
Merle
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01 Sep 2008, 1:43 pm
01 Sep 2008, 1:43 pm
sinsboldly wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue?
it is an issue because the lady backs and preachs the Republican party meme of "teach only abstinence" and eschew any type of sexual education of contraceptives or STD information because that will only "put ideas in their heads."
children being pregnant is the result of such 'abstinence only" policies.
this is why people see it as an issue. They feel the policy is faulty.
Merle
Agreed.
It's also an issue because if it were true, it would mean that she had abused her power as Governor to falsify official documents (hospital records, birth certificate, etc.), and had the poor judgment to put her family, and most specifically, her daughter, through public scrutiny despite knowing that something this difficult was likely to come out.
01 Sep 2008, 2:29 pm
sinsboldly wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue?
it is an issue because the lady backs and preachs the Republican party meme of "teach only abstinence" and eschew any type of sexual education of contraceptives or STD information because that will only "put ideas in their heads."
children being pregnant is the result of such 'abstinence only" policies.
this is why people see it as an issue. They feel the policy is faulty.
Merle
This is a sample size of one.
01 Sep 2008, 2:39 pm
twoshots wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue?
it is an issue because the lady backs and preachs the Republican party meme of "teach only abstinence" and eschew any type of sexual education of contraceptives or STD information because that will only "put ideas in their heads."
children being pregnant is the result of such 'abstinence only" policies.
this is why people see it as an issue. They feel the policy is faulty.
Merle
This is a sample size of one.
there's other studies with a larger sample-size. it doesn't work.
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01 Sep 2008, 2:42 pm
jat wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue?
it is an issue because the lady backs and preachs the Republican party meme of "teach only abstinence" and eschew any type of sexual education of contraceptives or STD information because that will only "put ideas in their heads."
children being pregnant is the result of such 'abstinence only" policies.
this is why people see it as an issue. They feel the policy is faulty.
Merle
Agreed.
It's also an issue because if it were true, it would mean that she had abused her power as Governor to falsify official documents (hospital records, birth certificate, etc.), and had the poor judgment to put her family, and most specifically, her daughter, through public scrutiny despite knowing that something this difficult was likely to come out.
too late, it is already out.
Palin stands accused of having fired Alaska’s public-safety commissioner because he would not dismiss her sister’s ex-husband, a state trooper, who the Palins have been feuding with since before she became governor. Though a full report from an independent investigator is due this fall, emails from Palin and a tape recording reveal that the governor at least pressured the commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law, after she previously denied having done so.
Palin has conceded that she was justified in pushing for the dismissal of her former brother-in-law, though she maintains it had nothing to do with her decision to replace the safety commissioner. She has spoken about her willingness to cooperate in the investigation repeatedly on national TV.
Merle
01 Sep 2008, 2:46 pm
skafather84 wrote:
twoshots wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue?
it is an issue because the lady backs and preachs the Republican party meme of "teach only abstinence" and eschew any type of sexual education of contraceptives or STD information because that will only "put ideas in their heads."
children being pregnant is the result of such 'abstinence only" policies.
this is why people see it as an issue. They feel the policy is faulty.
Merle
This is a sample size of one.
there's other studies with a larger sample-size. it doesn't work.
Of course. But attaching so much significance to a single individual is silly.
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01 Sep 2008, 2:49 pm
twoshots wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
twoshots wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
Why does it matter if it's her son or grandson or whatever? Why is it even an issue?
it is an issue because the lady backs and preachs the Republican party meme of "teach only abstinence" and eschew any type of sexual education of contraceptives or STD information because that will only "put ideas in their heads."
children being pregnant is the result of such 'abstinence only" policies.
this is why people see it as an issue. They feel the policy is faulty.
Merle
This is a sample size of one.
there's other studies with a larger sample-size. it doesn't work.
Of course. But attaching so much significance to a single individual is silly.
why? how many does a failed policy take to make it un silly?
