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08 Sep 2008, 11:38 am

Wow, RO water will kill you eventually. Micro-filtration systems take everything out of the water basically turning it into something more like distilled water which when consumed leaches vitamins and minerals out of ones body just to process the stuff. This really makes me sick! I feel very sorry for those folks who may be suckered into taking your water because eventually it will only kill them!! !



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08 Sep 2008, 11:41 am

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Now we get to the "reverse osmosis" keywords...

Eventually, I assume that this agent for the Waterguy(tm) Water Equipment Company (All Rights Reserved - Waterguy International - 2001) will try to sell you one of his $2690.00 home water treatment units. Mind you, it does mention "2000 GPD", which seems to mean 2,000 gallons per day (approximately 60 normal baths, or about twice that for showers).


You cannot buy or lease the machine. It is not for sale. It is in medical testing phase.

Sorry, no scam here.



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08 Sep 2008, 11:47 am

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Wow, RO water will kill you eventually. Micro-filtration systems take everything out of the water basically turning it into something more like distilled water which when consumed leaches vitamins and minerals out of ones body just to process the stuff. This really makes me sick! I feel very sorry for those folks who may be suckered into taking your water because eventually it will only kill them!! !


I am sorry, but you are wrong. Please look at Dr Wiel's page on water. You will see that he only drinks distilled water, and that the old fallacy of drinking distilled water is incorrect. Water is meant for cleansing the body, and no amount of water that you can drink will give you anything close to what you require in trace elements. Did you know that you would have to drink around 1200 glasses of tap water or stream water a day to get the amount of calcium that is required on a daily basis?

We have done tests on plants and fish and other live organisms, to see the effect of distilled water and this water. Nada, nothing. Except for healthier fish and plants. They grew stronger, were less disease prone, and actually grew slightly larger. they were bacteria and virus free.

Sorry, nothing there also.

Did you know that people with anytype of autoimmune problems are usually told only to drink distilled water? If you have HIV or something similar, that is all that you should drink. Get the impurities out of your body.



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08 Sep 2008, 11:59 am

I don't even know what to say to you. If you can't educate yourself any better than that, I'm sorry for you.

Did you ever wonder WHY you aren't being supported by anyone!! !

I should have known based on your complete lack of information.

I wouldn't touch your water!! !

Go away!! !



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08 Sep 2008, 12:12 pm

I suggest that anyone who wishes a reasonably unbiased view should type "Weil" (spelling) into the search box at http://www.quackwatch.com/


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08 Sep 2008, 12:34 pm

PS. more watery amusement may be had at http://www.chem1.com/CQ/


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08 Sep 2008, 12:43 pm

Weil is an obvious nut-case. I didn't have to read that to figure it out. I don't see the view there as completely unbiased though. There is very respected literature on natural remedies found in JAMA, for example. When it comes to concentrated concoctions containing herbs, that's another story altogether, and is actually potentially very harmful indeed. The line is somewhere in between and most people haven't found or even understand that yet. Only when you are faced with a life-threatening crisis and modern medicine has given up on you saying you have 5 years max to live that you do the research and discover there are legitamite alternatives out there. The recovery process was so immediate it was phenominal. Calcium is one of those compounds that is known to "reverse" cancer, for example. RO water leaches life sustaining vitamins and minerals from the body which will only cause health to deteriorate.



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08 Sep 2008, 1:03 pm

That is quackery. However, water can actually be very beneficial on the simple basis that it can affect the balance of pH in the human body. A high acid pH, for example, is known to contribute to encouraging cancer growth. With the use of adequate water, which is the recommended daily allowance, one can more effectively maintain a more alkaline pH to offset this acidity level, which in high concentrated volume can be harmful to health.

Anyone can throw up websites to debunks something. That alone isn't enough to support a contention.

But that, again, isn't to suggest in any way that RO water could ever have any health benefits, because it doesn't, quite the contrary.



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03 Oct 2008, 4:41 am

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I don't mean to criticise you again, but if its so wonderful and all, why havent you shown it to the government or something like that?


The government doesn't care. They are now worried about the chemicals in the water and the legal liabilities. The latest estimate from the EPA is that it is going to take about $300 billion to rebuild the water infrastructure in this country, and that is only for delivery of water to your house, not increase the quality of the water.

They care about what the population thinks about getting oil and energy, and that the problems of using hydrocarbons will be pushed off for several generations. Meanwhile, kidney failure is rising, autism is rising, liver failure is rising, mental disease is rising, cancer is rising, etc...But the average person at home is happy that is gas is not $4 per gallon but $3.25. And we are willing to fight wars for this. But our children suffer. The sins of the fathers are borne by the children. and their children. and their children.

Ask yourselves, why are the rates rising? What are we doing different now than what we did 200 years ago?

I am very tied into what the water problems are here, in the Middle East, and in South America. Did you know that the World Health Organization states that about 90% of ALL world diseases and disorders are from water? Did you know that 14000 children die each day from contaminated water or lack of water?
Just children, not adults. Did you know that you can live for 8 days without food, but about 1 1/2 days without water?

Did you know that the US government allowed the arsenic level to float to the level of arsenic poisoning until just the last couple of years?

"Arsenic is a semi-metal element in the periodic table. It is odorless and tasteless. It enters drinking water supplies from natural deposits in the earth or from agricultural and industrial practices.

Non-cancer effects can include thickening and discoloration of the skin, stomach pain, nausea, vomiting; diarrhea; numbness in hands and feet; partial paralysis; and blindness. Arsenic has been linked to cancer of the bladder, lungs, skin, kidney, nasal passages, liver, and prostate.

EPA has set the arsenic standard for drinking water at .010 parts per million (10 parts per billion) to protect consumers served by public water systems from the effects of long-term, chronic exposure to arsenic. Water systems must comply with this standard by January 23, 2006, providing additional protection to an estimated 13 million Americans."


And I haven't even started on the BPA in the water, and the water that is drank from water bottles everyday. Did you know that about 40% of the bottled water is really just tap water that has not had any processing, yet you are paying more for it than a gallon of gasoline on a per unit basis comparison?

How much can the human body take into it without reacting to the contaminants that it was never built for in the first place?


hmmm... :?
i'm sorry if I do sound a bit critical and all, but its a big thing to take in you know. :D
If your water really does have thee properties then I think you should take it outwith the government and get it tested by the world health organization, i'm sure they won't object.
some of your facts shocked me i must say, living in scotland we don't have these problems as such. We have unlimited fresh water. ^-^



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03 Oct 2008, 5:16 pm

autism is not a disease = =


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03 Oct 2008, 5:22 pm

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autism is not a disease = =
Well, at least Aspergers isn't. Is actual Autism a disease? :?



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03 Oct 2008, 5:30 pm

I doubt it. Aren't diseases supposed to make you sick? I don't think people get sick from being autistic. :?


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03 Oct 2008, 5:33 pm

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I doubt it. Aren't diseases supposed to make you sick? I don't think people get sick from being autistic. :?
Disease *is* a sickness.



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03 Oct 2008, 6:04 pm

Exactly. With that said, is autism a sickness? :?


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04 Oct 2008, 12:07 am

886 wrote:
Exactly. With that said, is autism a sickness? :?
Maybe someone can clear this up for us...*looks around* anyone?



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06 Oct 2008, 10:49 pm

ShadesOfMe wrote:
886 wrote:
Exactly. With that said, is autism a sickness? :?
Maybe someone can clear this up for us...*looks around* anyone?


Erm I guess not, then...