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Should I offer my life (organs) to save the lives of 5 needy people?
Yes 57%  57%  [ 12 ]
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06 Dec 2008, 6:48 pm

Fraya wrote:
Chibi_Neko wrote:
My mom is already listed as a organ donor, I am the one who filled her card, I asked her what she wanted to donate, and she told me to check in anything that could save another's life (eye balls and the brain where options on the card) so I checked in the typical stuff, heart, kidneys, ect.


Uh.. brain? I think you're mistaken. As far as I know no ones developed a way to do a brain transplant much less found some reasonable situation where one may be morally acceptable.

I guess it could be there in preparation for possible future medical procedures but still... what are they going to do? Transplant your brain from your destroyed body to one in a vegetative state to basically replace the whole thing?


No no no...... I guess I typed it in weird....
What I was saying is that the card had just about everything on it, like eyeballs and brain, I did not think my mom would want to donate those, so I asked her what she wanted to donate, and she said "whatever will save someone's life"
so I checked in the stuff that would, like the heart, kidneys, and Liver.

Hope that cleared it up.


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06 Dec 2008, 7:45 pm

They say we are playing god if we were to manufacture cures or cause limbs to regrow.

I think it is morally wrong to even try to stop such studies that could eventually save hundreds of millions of lives. If god didn't want us to do it he would have made it impossible to do so or he would've made us too stupid to figure it out.

They say it is gods will if someone dies, yet it isn't gods will if he gives them the knowledge to save a life?

God hates those who give life and adores those who promote death?
All these narrowminded people would rather have countless generations suffer rather than to save them. In the bible sacrificing your own life for someone else is the BEST thing one could do and would be automatically be given entrance into heaven.


It is far more natural for you to repair your own body since this already exists within nature. What DOESN'T happen in nature is swapping organs as far as I know.

So they allow something that NEVER happens in nature and reject something that ACTUALLY happens in nature and then say the unnatural occurrence is acceptable while the completely natural one is considered a crime against god.

It says in the bible that the christian god is a jealous god and yet jealousy is one of the 7 sins. A religion that teaches morality through a sinful god? :-/ sooooo many things are wrong with this stuff.




Isn't there a religion that doesn't contradict itself? Consistency and reason would be nice.



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06 Dec 2008, 7:49 pm

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With all the meds I'm on, would my organs be usable to anyone else? I know for a fact that I can't give blood because of the potent drug cocktail in my system at all times. Also, I am not sure if I have the blood-type needed to donate.

Pity.

Oh well, I can give of myself in many other ways. And I plan to.


You'd still be able to donate your organs, even if they're damaged from medications. Someone will need something for a while before getting a fully functioning one.

You probably cannot give blood because you are on blood thinners. Giving blood while on those is dangerous.


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I believe I'm going to worship the sun

Thanks go to george carlin on that idea


I saw that one. I might as well do the same.



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06 Dec 2008, 8:47 pm

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With all the meds I'm on, would my organs be usable to anyone else? I know for a fact that I can't give blood because of the potent drug cocktail in my system at all times. Also, I am not sure if I have the blood-type needed to donate.

Pity.

Oh well, I can give of myself in many other ways. And I plan to.
You could always donate your entire body.



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06 Dec 2008, 10:42 pm

Here is my take on organ donation. I have it marked on my license that I am an organ donor when I die. Transplants are not the only way organ donations are used, there are medical studies conducted on donated organs as well. The way I think of it, when I die, I won't be needing the organs anyway.


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06 Dec 2008, 10:45 pm

Fraya wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
With all the meds I'm on, would my organs be usable to anyone else? I know for a fact that I can't give blood because of the potent drug cocktail in my system at all times. Also, I am not sure if I have the blood-type needed to donate.

Pity.

Oh well, I can give of myself in many other ways. And I plan to.


They'll take any blood type in donation though some are more useful than others. For example type O is really useful as they can safely use it on anyone and mine (B negative) is apparently really rare.

But yeah having medication in your system, especially illegal or prescription drugs, pretty much makes your organs unusable.

I'm currently an organ donor but I'm thinking of changing it next time since they aren't so reliable for me these days I wouldn't want someone else stuck with them.


Have you thought about donating your organs for medical research? It might be an idea to consider.


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07 Dec 2008, 4:33 am

I just want to state, for those who seemed to be concerned that I was advocating suicide/setting up an elaborate suicide fantasy, that all I am interested in is having an interesting philosophical discussion (hence the inclusion of this thread in PPR). I find reflection about life, death and morality a fascinating subject and am looking to have a rational discussion about it with other people, not to provoke knee-jerk horrified reactions from people who don't even want to consider the ideas I am putting forward.

If the conclusion of this thread is that it would be right to kill oneself to donate organs, this is not what I am going to do - partly because I do not satisfy the premises anyway (I have relatives and friends and I am quite enjoying life at the moment). And I certainly have not suggested that anyone else should be coerced into doing such a thing.



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07 Dec 2008, 10:17 am

claire333 wrote:
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With all the meds I'm on, would my organs be usable to anyone else? I know for a fact that I can't give blood because of the potent drug cocktail in my system at all times. Also, I am not sure if I have the blood-type needed to donate.

Pity.

Oh well, I can give of myself in many other ways. And I plan to.
You could always donate your entire body.


Yes, to science.To anatomy students. After I'm dead, not before.

Or perhaps I could "donate" my body, mind, and soul to another person through marriage.

Or maybe I'd just like to become compost after I'm gone. Have a green funeral with no formaldehyde.



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07 Dec 2008, 3:48 pm

merrymadscientist wrote:
I was thinking about this recently. Obviously there are few people who have a problem with people receiving organs from someone who has died naturally. However, I saw this philosophy problem on the bbc website and took it a step further.

The original problem was about when it might or might not be OK to kill/let die one person to save the lives of more than one person. For example, would it be morally OK to kill one healthy person who had no friends or relatives, in order to save the lives of 5 people needing organs who would die without them. I think most people say no in this case.

What if it's to save the President of the United States? Do the so-called "interests of the country" reign supreme to that of any individual?

I suspect the SS will see to it that way.

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Then the problem went on to say that if you were a train driver and you saw ahead of you 5 people tied to the track and there was no way of stopping the train from killing them, apart from taking a diverting line which would then run over and kill a single person, would it be morally right to divert the train and hence save 4 lives. In this case most people choose to divert, but which (if any) is morally right, and why is this situation so different from the one above?

Couldn't you argue that the five people tied to the track weren't supposed to be there in the first place, therefore you shouldn't have to bear the responsibility for killing them, at least as much as you would for the one person you would end up killing if you were to divert the train? How they got there and why is a different matter though, and the people who tied them there should really bear the blame for it.

merrymadscientist wrote:
I was thinking about this recently. Obviously there are few people who have a These types of questions are interesting in themselves, basically because it is impossible for us to calculate the value of a life, or of certain lives against others. However I was wondering this.

What if I (a healthy and fit 30 year old female) decided that I'd had enough of life and I wanted to die, but also to donate my organs, therefore saving 5 lives (of people who presumably want to live a lot more than I do). I wouldnt expect any money or anything for it, but for the organ transplants to work, I would have to die by a means and in a place where it was possible to immediately remove the organs and retransplant them (so I couldnt just commit suicide by any means in a private place). Would this extremely altruistic act be morally right?

That's a decision you'll have to make by yourself. Save everybody else the moral dilemma and psychological burden of it.