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The cabinet appointments were a strong indication that the new president was following the Democratic line of sniffing up to the behinds of the conservative Republicans but the latest indications of dumping tons of money down the rathole of bank failures leave the only conclusion that the change he promised is the small change left in the pockets of the American public after the financial thugs have run away with the bulk of the economy.

How is Finland's economy doing, eh?

I think this is the real him. I think you can see why he avoided defining himself in his campaign and used 'change' to be whatever anyone hoped it could be - difficult for most politicians to have that much cover on the details but the media was quite diligent in ignoring anything that could sacrifice him.

At least now that Democrats have the power, people are starting to get a taste of what its really about, if anything its good for their sense of perspective as well as contemplating the bill of goods that the media sold them. I'd also like to think California with ditch Pelosi as soon as they can, as Nevada would Harry Reid - they're both embarrassments, and if Obama continues to keep it real we'll probably be looking at conservatives having control of the House and Senate in 2010 and likely presidency in 2012. Don't get me wrong, for the sake of the country I don't want to see him (or the peanut gallery) run it into the ground but he is what he is and about the only silver lining I can think of is that the American people, with their ADD for history, will keep this one fresh in their minds long enough not to make this mistake again for at least another couple of decades.

As for the other side - Michael Steele just got elected as head of the RNC, I really hope he's allowed to clean house and restructure the overall tone the way he'd like. The guy's got a lot of great ideas in terms of articulating the message to younger generations as well as making sure that the black GOP and Hispanic conservatives are heard much more often.

Does this mean no more Reaganomics? I can finally support the republican party wholeheartedly?

I'm trying to keep this from sounding like a shot but, as long as you keep your current understanding of the matter I have a feeling you'll continue to vote Democrat, 3rd party, or not at all for a long time to come.

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I'm a citizen of the USA

Speaking more plainly the conservatives would rather see the American people and small businesses just keep their money - one idea suggested is having a payroll tax holiday for so many months or even a whole year. The problem with the Republican party is it hasn't been representing conservatives adequately for what their ideas are, after this past election more than ever conservatives know that they need to take the party back and reshape it as they see fit.

The republican partys problem is that conservatives span a great political spectrum, from laizzes-faire libertarians like ron paul, moderate secularists like mccain to crazy fundamentalists like palin and huckabee. the dems are more homogeneous which makes it alot easier to garner votes and present a unified message. if michael steele is willing to sacrifice some holy cows of conservatism(budge a bit on value issues and throw reaganomics out the window), and he seems like a pragmatist so its not unlikely, 2012 might actually not be another landslide for obama.

I'd have to debate that. Dems have socialists, liberal leaning libertarians, those who vote sheerly on one or two special interests, and even more who vote that way because of their union or government subsidy. What they do have that smooths everything over is the media, colleges, and pop culture - everyone saying that its the only fair minded and enlightened way to think. The trouble is, and what will likely end up being their downfall, is that they've taken the 'cult of personality' completely off the rail - that's a trump card, its one that at least younger conservatives will be much wiser on how to remedy, and of course if that trump card reaps multi-trillion dollar spending bills, sets it in motion to censor free speech on radio, or trample right over the top of the heads of what the voting populace really wants - its shot. Yes, Americans have ADD, they'll forget the mistake they made by letting themselves be blinded by charisma, but they're memory will be good for a few more election cycles and the next democratic candidate will likely be someone who's good on debate and who knows - it could more likely end up being someone more of the Joe Lieberman sort of cloth.

I think I'm going to stop paying taxes. I think if I stop paying taxes, I will have a better chance at making it in political office. I think it will also improve my chances of becoming the US Secretary of the Treasury in the future. I will even pretend that my failure to pay $35,000 in taxes was a "careless" and "unintentional" mistake. By making that claim, I believe my chances will be greatly improved at becoming the Treasury Secretary.

If that doesn't workout, then I will have to try plan B. Plan B is similar to my original plan, but I will up the ante. I will still not pay my taxes, but this time I won't pay up to $90,000 in taxes. If I do that, then I believe I will have the best chances at becoming the Secretary for Health and Human Services. It's not as good as being the Treasury Secretary, but still a good job, and I will save myself $90,000 instead of just a measly $35,000.

Yeah, just be sure you can have a whole slew of people who can circle their wagons around you from the critics and say "No! He's indispensible! We need him too badly to investigate this off-shore tax fraud scheme and he's...like...to taxes what David Carradine was to Kung Fu! Hyyyyyah......wwwwwoooooooohhh!"

Ok, ok... Maybe he didn't mean it, but at least he SAID a few things that made sense. At least I got a couple of months of hope out of the deal. That's more than anyone else in Washington has done in years. (Not counting candidates without a snowball's chance.)

"A World That Stands as One," Obama's Speech in Berlin
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/berlinvideo/

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Obama's stimulus package reached the Senate today. With luck, it will be stopped there within the week. With no luck, it will pass the Senate and Mr. Obama will have no qualms about signing his own plan, condemning the Republic to an economic crisis worse than the Great Depression.

Hmnn I could mention that there was a precedent of such plans working after a crisis identical to the US' one. But then I noticed this is a politics thread. We must respect politics and keep facts miles and miles away from politics, else politics could die, and nobody wants that.

Please don't say FDR...

I've been wondering for years why we're not rioting in the streets.
So, are we all agreed? Have we had enough? Is it time to revolt?

I can hear it now:
"The geeks are revolting!"
"So what else is new?"


Oh. Wait a minute. Maybe it's those shiny new Haliburton concentration camps...