What can I DO with my course choices?

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29 Jan 2009, 11:58 pm

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They can get decent jobs, but from personal experience I would say that people who go for a master's instead of a doctorate are just inferior people in pretty much every possible way.


Wow, really? It's inferior to stay in college for an additional 1.5 years after a Bachelor's to give yourself a better chance at getting a job and/or increase in pay, then feel no need to take the additional classes and just enter the job market?


I think it depends on the subject and current economic conditions. My faculty mentor used to tell us that getting a Masters degree would equate to $10k/year in additional starting pay. I left after my bachelors and earned that in pay raises in 2 same years, so I think I was better off leaving.


Indeed, but it depends on the field, and with a lot of careers, the promotion potential's greater with a degree.


Also, a side-note: I think I'm being a bit of a dick tonight (at least relative to what I usually am), sorry about that. It's a combination of lack of sleep and the agitation from the prospect of meeting up with an attractive gal later to go to a loud, crowded club with her.



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30 Jan 2009, 12:43 am

I would rather go into a science major then have a partying major *shutters*
Do you have to be bi-lingual to get a job in psychology? I'm horrible at French, and I know that if I go into Psychology, practically everybody else will understand French because the only school that offers any PhD in my hometown is a bi-lingual school (which from what I've heard is pretty b****y, but I would do it if I wanted that kind of career.)
Do you know what kind of major I would have to get if I wanted to work with people (psychology-wise) with special needs? That's another possibility that I'm thinking about...
Thank you for all your advice. I do get 70% of my education payed thanks to my jacka** of a father who we had to sue in order to get any help from. The courts just really didn't like the fact that he's living in a 500k home while we struggle month to month with bills because he wouldn't pay. So money isn't too much of an issue for me. (I like ramen noodles anyways :P)



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30 Jan 2009, 12:48 am

You'd have to look into the school's program itself to see if you need to speak the two languages, but I doubt even. Even if you don't have to, I really would suggest you work to become bi/trilingual. The more languages in which you're fluent, the easier a time you'll have finding work. I'd honestly have a job right now had I just been able to continue with my classes in Japanese.



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30 Jan 2009, 4:43 am

I really would love to speak another language, however, I've been trying for YEARS and I just can't. My brain just doesn't understand French at all...



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30 Jan 2009, 6:01 am

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I really would love to speak another language, however, I've been trying for YEARS and I just can't. My brain just doesn't understand French at all...


If you really want to learn French, try learning just the basics to a different one first by going through the first year classes, one of the major language that you might find easier. German, Spanish, and Japanese (surprisingly easy to learn) are all good, with German possibly being best since they have several similar words, possibly similar sentence structures (I'm not positive in the least on that). I've found that learning the basics of a language that you find easy really helps you in learning a language you'd otherwise find difficult.



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30 Jan 2009, 7:22 am

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I really would love to speak another language, however, I've been trying for YEARS and I just can't. My brain just doesn't understand French at all...


If you really want to learn French, try learning just the basics to a different one first by going through the first year classes, one of the major language that you might find easier. German, Spanish, and Japanese (surprisingly easy to learn) are all good, with German possibly being best since they have several similar words, possibly similar sentence structures (I'm not positive in the least on that). I've found that learning the basics of a language that you find easy really helps you in learning a language you'd otherwise find difficult.

Esperanto may be good if you want to learn the basics of a simple language before trying to master a harder one.


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30 Jan 2009, 6:56 pm

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I really would love to speak another language, however, I've been trying for YEARS and I just can't. My brain just doesn't understand French at all...


If you really want to learn French, try learning just the basics to a different one first by going through the first year classes, one of the major language that you might find easier. German, Spanish, and Japanese (surprisingly easy to learn) are all good, with German possibly being best since they have several similar words, possibly similar sentence structures (I'm not positive in the least on that). I've found that learning the basics of a language that you find easy really helps you in learning a language you'd otherwise find difficult.
That's a good idea! Sadly, my school is cutting out the Spanish class now because there isn't a Spanish teacher anymore to teach it and we don't have any other languages besides French. And there isn't a grade 10, 11, or 12 applied French course, and I already did grade 9 applied. I would be able to do 10 applied, but not 10 core (which is the next level up).



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10 Feb 2009, 3:44 am

Temple Grandin suggests in her talks about Autism that if you can show a strong work related portfolio in any field you choose, that you will have conquered a major work milestone. The point is this- show proof that you are better at it than your competition, that you actually care about your job, and that you really enjoy doing it. A popular way to express your enthusiasm would be to write a self published journal, zine, or blog about your pursuits (i.e. books you've read on your own that cover the topic, interviews with professionals or professors who know about the field, or independently designed research). Doing a creative project to help you decide your future is one of the best ways to make life altering decisions, and to be honest, may wind up becoming an even bigger project that does make you some money in the long run.



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10 Feb 2009, 4:21 am

You know, Marketing, Advertising, or Public Relations might be your thing. They would all utilize a strong Business, Psychology and English background. Here again, Statistics would be beneficial.



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10 Feb 2009, 10:53 am

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Repeat after me:

"Would you like fries with that?"

"Where to, mac?"

"Please hold."

"Paper or plastic?"


And the all-time favorite:

"Spare change?"

But can't you get some type of job other then that with a University education, even if it's general? I mean, I enjoy these things, and I really want to get a job I enjoy. I don't care about the pay too much, as long as I'm afloat I'm fine. But I can't work fast food, I get overwhelmed much too easily (I can barely eat at a fast food restaurant)
By the way, you could have been a bit nicer and still said the same thing...

It doesn't really matter what degree you get anymore, it's about what YOU can bring to the job. People with business, arts, science degrees are a dime a dozen. It's about work experience, selling yourself and your skills in interviews, moving up while on the job. Figure out what you are interested in, and where you could potentially get a job. Getting the "right degree" is not the golden ticket to a good job anymore, the real schooling is once you are out in the real world and learning on the job.



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11 Feb 2009, 4:03 am

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ebec11 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Repeat after me:

"Would you like fries with that?"

"Where to, mac?"

"Please hold."

"Paper or plastic?"


And the all-time favorite:

"Spare change?"

But can't you get some type of job other then that with a University education, even if it's general? I mean, I enjoy these things, and I really want to get a job I enjoy. I don't care about the pay too much, as long as I'm afloat I'm fine. But I can't work fast food, I get overwhelmed much too easily (I can barely eat at a fast food restaurant)
By the way, you could have been a bit nicer and still said the same thing...

It doesn't really matter what degree you get anymore, it's about what YOU can bring to the job. People with business, arts, science degrees are a dime a dozen. It's about work experience, selling yourself and your skills in interviews, moving up while on the job. Figure out what you are interested in, and where you could potentially get a job. Getting the "right degree" is not the golden ticket to a good job anymore, the real schooling is once you are out in the real world and learning on the job.


This is very true for most Liberal Arts degree holding job seekers. I think an important attitude to keep is that your degree isn't worthless. So many Humanities graduates are disenchanted by the time they graduate because there aren't employers with job offers waiting for them, or nearly anyone else with their degree, to apply for vacant positions. Finding relevant employment early on the path to the degree is key. Internships and other special opportunities are good opportunities to get work experience, and there are tons of companies looking for free labor from interns, all the time. Keeping the same job for at least a few years is also important, once you get out there in the job market. Its a good idea to find your own opportunities instead of relying on the degree requirements to push you along the way, also.



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11 Feb 2009, 1:15 pm

It's not just true for humanities, it's the same for most science and business degrees too. It's very common to see people who have a biology degree, a marketing degree, economics, finance, etc.