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11 Mar 2009, 12:02 pm

Timidity Derails Obama Intelligence Choice


This is the best part...

Neoconservative Daniel Pipes offered an anatomy of the crime, blog-bragging about how it was conducted:

“What you may not know is that Steven J. Rosen of the Middle East forum was the person who first brought attention [on Feb. 19] to the problematic nature of Freeman’s appointment. ... Within hours, the word was out and three weeks later Freeman has conceded defeat. Only someone with Steve’s stature and credibility could have made this happen.”

The same Steve Rosen who is currently on trial for violations of the Espionage Act involving the transmission of classified information intended for Israel? ...


Rosen is guilty as sin by the way of espionage, his defence is to claim that "everyone does it", that spying for Israel is in fact an example of American patriotic duty... so he admits to it so there's no question of "alleged spy", he by his own admission is guilty... though he and his people claim it's not a crime... the trial has yet to start because of "graymail" (trying to force the government to reveal classified information in court in a bid to get it to fold) and compliant judges helping him and his associates along though partner in crime, the former assistant of Pentagon number 2 Douglas Feith, was convicted...



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11 Mar 2009, 12:18 pm

Freeman's withdrawal: a pyrrhic victory for the Israel Lobby?

The decision to toss Freeman over the side tells the lobby (and others) that it doesn't have to worry about Barack getting tough with Netanyahu, or even that he’s willing to fight hard for his own people. Although AIPAC has issued a pro forma denial that it had anything to do with it, well-placed friends in Washington have told me that it leaned hard on some key senators behind-the-scenes and is now bragging that Obama is a "pushover." Bottom line: Caving on Freeman was a blunder that could come back to haunt any subsequent effort to address the deteriorating situation in the region.



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11 Mar 2009, 5:58 pm

What the frigging hell? They made him withdraw? >< I already hated those idiots at the Israeli lobby, but now they're pissing me off O.O Leave it to the idiotic republicans to worsten the case -.-



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12 Mar 2009, 8:14 am

xenon13 wrote:

The same Steve Rosen who is currently on trial for violations of the Espionage Act involving the transmission of classified information intended for Israel? ...


Rosen is guilty as sin by the way of espionage, his defence is to claim that "everyone does it", that spying for Israel is in fact an example of American patriotic duty... so he admits to it so there's no question of "alleged spy", he by his own admission is guilty... though he and his people claim it's not a crime... the trial has yet to start because of "graymail" (trying to force the government to reveal classified information in court in a bid to get it to fold) and compliant judges helping him and his associates along though partner in crime, the former assistant of Pentagon number 2 Douglas Feith, was convicted...


On trail? Has he been convicted?

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14 Mar 2009, 8:55 pm

I explained this point earlier - in short, Rosen and his associate admitted that they spied for Israel, but their defence is that "everyone does it", that it's the duty of every patriotic American... nevertheless, the assistant of known Israeli spy and ex number 2 at the Pentagon Douglas Feith, Larry Franklin, was convicted. Seymour Hersch described in his book on Nixon Feith being caught spying for Israel by the FBI in the 1970s(!) but he was never charged... Feith also got away with this one too. ... he went on to become Number Two at the Pentagon(! !!)...It was Feith's office that brought forth the Office of Special Plans to produce propaganda to support an invasion of Iraq, that followed recommendations Feith made in that document he wrote with Richard Perle in 1996 for Netanyahu, "A Clean Break: A Strategy for Securing the Realm"...

Two pillars of the defence here includes so-called graymail, which is to force the government to reveal secrets in court in a bid to get it to fold. The judges so far have been very cooperative in this... second is the 'it's the duty of patriotic Americans and everyone does it' defence...

The defence in this case recalls that poem...

Treason doth not prosper,
What is the reason,
Why, if treason prosper,
None dare call it treason

When you think of it, what happened to Feith and to Richard Perle, also caught spying for Israel, strongly suggests that Rosen has a case for saying that spying for Israel is OK as far as the American political class is concerned. Just as long as you don't send nuclear secrets to Israel to be traded to the Soviets for people as Jonathan Pollard did.



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15 Mar 2009, 2:27 pm

Wasn't 'None Dare call it Treason' an old John Birch book?...;) (It's named after the same doggerel, btw)



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17 Mar 2009, 11:21 am

The Moonie newspaper reports that one of the spy's Mossad people has been banned from entering the United States...

EXCLUSIVE: Israel's national security aide barred from U.S.

Uzi Arad, who is expected to serve as national security adviser in the next Israeli government, has been barred from entering the United States for nearly two years on the grounds that he is an intelligence risk.

Mr. Arad, a former member and director of intelligence for the Mossad, Israel's spy service, is mentioned in the indictment of Lawrence Franklin, a former Pentagon analyst who pleaded guilty in 2005 to providing classified information about Iran in a conversation with two employees of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).



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19 Mar 2009, 9:29 am

First off, Freeman's nomination being rejected had nothing to do with taking a tough stance on Israel. It has to do with his blatant Bias in his views on Israel, while praising the autocracies of Saudi Arabia and China. That seems a bit odd for someone who is going to be dealing with nations. I would hope someone on the other side in negotiations don't have pre-conceived views that could themselves hamper a peace process. And even if Rosen had started the discussion, does that reduce his credibility in what he said? and AIPAC is a great lobby..it doesn't have all out power like Walt claims it does in his shoddy researched book, that everyone of us in the " Know" was annotated with pretty bad information and has been discounted by most academics and foreign policy experts.



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