Do you believe psychiatrist overmedicate people?

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Do Psychiatrist make pills to often the solution?
Yes, they do, they hand them out like candy. 27%  27%  [ 8 ]
Yes, they do, they hand them out like candy. 27%  27%  [ 8 ]
Yes, at times doctors have a tendency to make pills the solution to much. 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
Yes, at times doctors have a tendency to make pills the solution to much. 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
Maybe, some doctors likely do, yet overall no. 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
Maybe, some doctors likely do, yet overall no. 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
No 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
No 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 30

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10 Apr 2006, 8:29 pm

READ Before Voting..

Is it or is it not to often the solution of doctors who study the mind that medication is to often diagnosed. As if it was the solution instead of other kinds of therapy?


If you have questions concerning the post and poll, then post them prior.

This is not an anti psychiatrist poll, rather gathering opinion from the group.

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Yes, they do, they hand them out like candy.
Yes, at times doctors have a tendency to make pills the solution to much.
Maybe, some doctors likely do, yet overall no
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10 Apr 2006, 8:36 pm

In relation to which countries healthcare system and on what sociological characterists and economic situation?

It is important to determine those first



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10 Apr 2006, 8:44 pm

You and your experiences no matter the locality, as well as observations in society where you live.

Feel free to hyper-differentiate in any way you want.

One cannot really say all doctors in this or that country overmedicate, really it's subjective to each individual doctor.

People can respond saying how they voted, I already know that some county systems here, hand them out like candy. Yet that is from my observations, people are in some instances generally overmedicated and that in my opinion again there are other solutions in some circumstances.

Yet I am no doctor nor do I desire to scare any pharmaceutical stock holders here :lol:



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10 Apr 2006, 8:55 pm

Well here is an example for you, a case study

I have a friend in wisconsin. mid 30's poor economic situation, native americain/Germanic ethnic background 3 children single parent. Had a migraine, said to her she should go get some paracetamol. Went to the pharmacist and they had never heard of it?! I mean is this a brand name thing I was quite shocked to hear that, basic drug painkiller and they didn't know what it was

Case Study 2. Flatmate went to the doc before an exam said he had sleeping problems etc (he was after getting a doctors certificate so he could have the exam at a later date, claim he was unwell you see) late 20's white anglo saxon law student with a Lincolnshire accent. Doctor prescribed him with Diazipan and an unknown anti-depressent

Case Study 3. Myself mid 20's nurse student. GP at home said my asthma was fine dispite my objections. GP at university clinic changed my medication to a slightly more expensive preventer drug (Serotide) which has radically improved my asthma since



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10 Apr 2006, 9:00 pm

Proper case studies are done by groups, not make believe friends over the internet.



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11 Apr 2006, 12:40 am

I voted so fast I didnt even get a chance to see you telling me not to do that.


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11 Apr 2006, 1:02 am

Yes, psychiatrists overmedicate, like any other doctors do ... at least they do in the United States. Many doctors are also given kickbacks from large pharmaceutical firms for using their medications, which probably includes shrinks as well.

For example, naturopathy has a very poor record in the United States medical system. Hydrotherapy is hardly ever used for things like muscle aches and so forth. Instead, they first pump you up with some sort of drug and go from there. In some cases, it surely is understandable that drugs are needed, but in many cases ... they are not.

It is most likely a known fact that caffeine produces heart palpitations and fibrillations in some people. Yet, doctors tend not to focus on eliminating caffeine in your diet. What do they do instead? They give you a prescription for digitalis derivatives.

Why should psychiatrists be any different? How many kids are currently placed on Ritalin? Most of them do not even belong on the drug, but the school officials would rather kids be pharmaceutically controlled. It makes them easier for school officials to handle. I wonder how many officials, doctors or not, are getting kickbacks from firms pushing these little pills?

And ever wonder about the advertisements? Drug advertisements? They're all over the television commercial spectrum nowadays, and these are for prescription drugs. They are literally baiting the members of the audience to beg their doctors for a nice little curable tablet that could be ingested with little ease, and then all their worries will go away.

Yet, all of this combined with the intake of chemicals through processed food everyday, and we wonder why our immune systems are faulting? And we wonder why more flu epidemics are breaking out? Why drugs are resistant to new virus and bacteria?

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11 Apr 2006, 3:53 am

Laz wrote:
Well here is an example for you, a case study

I have a friend in wisconsin. mid 30's poor economic situation, native americain/Germanic ethnic background 3 children single parent. Had a migraine, said to her she should go get some paracetamol. Went to the pharmacist and they had never heard of it?! I mean is this a brand name thing I was quite shocked to hear that, basic drug painkiller and they didn't know what it was
I don't know if it's the same thing, but all the americans I knew resorted to something called 'Tylenol' for pain relief. Wouldn't really work with a migraine though, they need stronger, specialist medication than you'd take for a regular headache.

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Case Study 2. Flatmate went to the doc before an exam said he had sleeping problems etc (he was after getting a doctors certificate so he could have the exam at a later date, claim he was unwell you see) late 20's white anglo saxon law student with a Lincolnshire accent. Doctor prescribed him with Diazipan and an unknown anti-depressent
Hmmm... yeah, you need to be able to catch up on sleep, but I'm not so sure about the wisdom of those kinds of drugs when a person is revising for an exam. If your flatmate is still suffering, I suggest acupuncture. I went through a phase of really bad insomnia, tried sleeping tablets, but they didn't get my body clock back in order, just left me feeling groggy. I had some acunpuncture, don't know how or why, but it worked. It's worth a try.

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Case Study 3. Myself mid 20's nurse student. GP at home said my asthma was fine dispite my objections. GP at university clinic changed my medication to a slightly more expensive preventer drug (Serotide) which has radically improved my asthma since
Yeah, budgets. Really bad to prescribe based on budgets as opposed to clinical need, but lots of doctors do it.



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11 Apr 2006, 4:27 am

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Hmmm... yeah, you need to be able to catch up on sleep, but I'm not so sure about the wisdom of those kinds of drugs when a person is revising for an exam. If your flatmate is still suffering, I suggest acupuncture. I went through a phase of really bad insomnia, tried sleeping tablets, but they didn't get my body clock back in order, just left me feeling groggy. I had some acunpuncture, don't know how or why, but it worked. It's worth a try.


Nah he played it up to try and get a doctors certificate so he could resit the exam at a later date for "medical Reasons" and it kinda backfired on him, he didn't get the prescribed drugs he was given.



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11 Apr 2006, 4:36 am

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Proper case studies are done by groups, not make believe friends over the internet.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes because this is truly groundbreaking research isn't it?



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11 Apr 2006, 4:41 am

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Yeah, budgets. Really bad to prescribe based on budgets as opposed to clinical need, but lots of doctors do it


What was very annoying was that he actually openly would say (being he's the family GP) to us that he was in charge of the finances for the surgery. It felt like a very stupid conflict of interest for a GP to have



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11 Apr 2006, 3:08 pm

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Many doctors are also given kickbacks from large pharmaceutical firms for using their medications, which probably includes shrinks as well.


Yep, this certainly included a psychiatrist that I had once. I must've been given about seven different medications over the course of about two years, and sometimes I was taking more than one at once plus additional vitamin supplements to help with the side effects. They worked not a bit and actually made things much worse because the root cause of my problems (I was having difficulty dealing with all the change I was experiencing) was never addressed, not to mention the nasty side effects. That alone, without the meds, would have probably worked fine. Unfortunately, that seems to be the norm in the U.S medical system-giving you drugs often made by large pharmaceutical companies who overcharge for them (generic brands have the exact same ingredients, and are cheaper), and who spend most of their funds on advertising and market research rather than the actual efficacy of the drugs, to mask or eliminate your symptoms (and also sell you drugs to deal with the side effects) rather than addressing the actual root cause of the disease/condition or preventing it. Sorry, this topic always puts me in a ranting mode. Rant officially over :wink:



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11 Apr 2006, 7:17 pm

I voted for "they hand them out like candy" I was presribed "Moclobemide" (brand name Aurorix) for so called depression. I interpreted being anxious and feeling awkward about social situations and getting withdrawn into one's own world as "depression". Not getting along in social circles no matter how hard I tired was "depression" The frustration with is accompanying tantrums was "depression"

So I was prescibed "Moclobemide" for a codition that turned out to be autism. I was diagnosed with autism when I was 8 and that has only just come to my attention.

So I just put this Moclobemide to the simple google test
First I entered "moclobemide for autism"
Result:
Tip: Try removing quotes from your search to get more results.


Your search - "moclobemide for autism" - did not match any documents.

Then I entered "moclobemide for depression"
Results 1 - 10 of about 132 for "moclobemide for depression". (0.29 seconds)

"moclobemide for asperger" was the same as "moclobemide for autism", "nil"

"ritalin for asperger"
Results 1 - 3 of 3 for "ritalin for asperger". (0.60 seconds)

"ritalin for ADHD"
Results 1 - 10 of about 13,400 for "ritalin for adhd". (0.22 seconds)

"ritalin for autism"
Results 1 - 10 of about 43 for "ritalin for autism". (1.43 seconds)

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11 Apr 2006, 8:51 pm

Where do I sign up to get overmedicated??? Anyone?? Anyone?? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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