Is Iran's nuclear program really "peaceful"?

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Is Iran's nuclear program really "peaceful"?
Poll ended at 20 May 2006, 4:10 pm
Yes 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
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18 May 2006, 6:14 pm

unfortunately our views regarding US military intentions and world leadership diverge. after the fallacious invasions of afghanistan and iraq led by the US and subsequent reading on the matter of vietnam and the role played in world war 2, i am of the belief that elements of the US industrial, political and military system are pernicious. journalists such as john pilger and others have exposed the workings of the US war machine. this is not to pass judgement in any way on benevolent individuals who may have unknowingly partaken in this treachery through a sense of patriotism or public duty, however misplaced.

i do not believe the pdf article i cited fake or an error, although perhaps revealed to the public in error, and retracted after the fact.



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18 May 2006, 6:34 pm

The military should be replaced.


Bush should be in jail.

The real Americans should be in control and in leadership.



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18 May 2006, 9:30 pm

peebo wrote:
sc wrote:
The U.S does not use nukes to win wars in exception for once.


doctrine for joint nuclear operations wrote:
"This means a US military machine prepared to use nuclear weapons first, against non-nuclear countries and non-military-related, civilian targets."


http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/i ... ations.pdf

http://www.greenpeace.org/international ... operations


It'll never happen. We're rattling our sabers to get them to comply. Using nukes would have disasterous consequences for the local population, and could even cause the world to draw up arms against us. And you cant blame the actions of the Us military on themselves. They're run by civilians. Rumsfeld is a paper-pusher who was appointed from a president that got 50% of the popular vote.



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19 May 2006, 1:07 am

perhaps, but if this is the case, i wonder why the pentagon removed the document from their website in 2005.



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19 May 2006, 11:20 am

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Rumsfeld is a paper-pusher who was appointed from a president that got 50% of the popular vote


Thats very polite. I would say he's an arrogant c***sucker of satan



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19 May 2006, 3:48 pm

As long Iran wants nuclear power it will not be for peaceful intentions. As long Iran really does not what to be truly apart of the World and be fanatic about its veiws; it should not get nuclear power or it will make the bomb for sure in the end.


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20 May 2006, 4:09 am

kevv729 wrote:
As long Iran wants nuclear power it will not be for peaceful intentions. As long Iran really does not what to be truly apart of the World and be fanatic about its veiws; it should not get nuclear power or it will make the bomb for sure in the end.


I don't think that is very fair...

The US was the first nuclear country and they have already proven that they are not necessarily peaceful with their nukes. Or peaceful at all… (Iraq).

And also, what is wrong their Iran having nuclear power stations, the world’s fossil fuels are running out, CO2 emissions need to be cut down and since a nuclear reactor uses so little fuel every day, the need for huge transport and mining operations is removed.

As I said in a post earlier producing a bomb is very difficult, and in this age of Google Earth, quite noticeable. But also having nuclear power stations is not tantamount to having a bomb, nor the capabilities to launch such a bomb.

Also, reading the news today, apparently Europe and the US are clashing about this. This is just a thought, but maybe that means that this issue is going to end with Europe as a whole becoming the US’s puppet like the UK somewhat is already.
Any thoughts?



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20 May 2006, 7:17 am

To be fair with irans recent history they were actually beginning to become quite a moderate country but recent actions have forced the conservative religious types to smack the reformists down. Afraid the action in afghanistan and Iraq hasn't helped and no one really took that into account when these military actions were carried out. Look at the reversal of progressive reformers and the rise of the most recent leader of Iran and it seems to go hand in hand with its borders becoming more closely within the sphere of influence of the united states



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21 May 2006, 9:06 pm

Before Libya gave up it came very close to producing nuclear weapons. South Africa produced 5 or 6 nuclear weapons before The U.N. supervised there dismantling. Even Israel may have them. Iran has shone no trust to the World, U.N., or any World Agencies. They even may get out of a treaty of Nuclear Nonproliferation. Even Pakistan may have given them nuclear secrets making it easier to make nuclear weapons. Even when You have Religious Leaders in control of the country, their agenda becomes the agenda of the country then. Then they want to destroy Israel. Then Israel would have to use them if and when Iran would in the end. That could lead to a wider nuclear exchange from other nuclear powers in the area. Like Pakistan and India even China should I go on in the end; the U.S. and Russia might get dragged into it in the end.


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26 May 2006, 3:33 pm

kevv729 wrote:
Even Pakistan may have given them nuclear secrets making it easier to make nuclear weapons.


What do you mean by "nuclear secrets" ?

If you mean that certain scientific breakthroughs should be kept secret then I have a quotation for you:

"Free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people who's leaders at last lose their grip on information will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

Science is not something that should be possessed and jealously guarded… it is a way of viewing and understanding the world.

I accept that there are sound strategic reasons for wanting nuclear technology to be kept away from certain groups, but I would rate the US higher among these groups than Iran.

And despite the danger I still thing nuclear technology, like all science, should be not be constricted. While it can be used destructively, it can also provide cleaner power than many countries are currently using. So if the world’s people let their fear of each other stop them using nuclear power stations, then the world is going to die shortly anyway from pollution.



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27 May 2006, 6:52 pm

What Iran is doing is allowed it has not broken any laws. They signed the same treaty as the United States about not giving other countrys or people nuclear matter. The leaders of Iran and the US are using this to keep their radicals happy, no one is going to mess with me line. Both are annoying the more level headed of both countrys. I hope this does not lead to attacks on Iran is not weak like Iraq was they will hit back hard.


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28 May 2006, 12:51 pm

We've already had one recent war based on lies. Thousands have died. Now the same administration is telling the same lies about another country. Why would anyone believe it? Sorry, if the USA regime wants to make such accusations, they really should provide some evidence. So far, all Iran is doing is pursuing nuclear power generation. Even USA intelligence agencies say Iran is at least ten years away from having the capacity to produce nuclear weapons even if they wanted to.



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30 May 2006, 3:40 pm

umm..... you must be really reatarted to think that Iran will not use a nuke to wipe Israel off the map.
they said it in a news confrence!
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