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23 Dec 2006, 9:46 pm

Gstla2 wrote:
No question about it.
somebody had to create universe.

i know the answer and its simple.


As the AC/DC song goes "....who made who..." . If somebody had to make the universe then somebody had to make that somebody and so on. Which is back to my
point if it all started from nothing at the beginng of this universe or if it has exsisted
before and perhaps since infinity. In either case thats a hard pill to swallow and doing so does not require God to balance the equations.



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24 Dec 2006, 7:05 am

Well God has always existed.
He hasnt our point of view of time.
he has always existed
we arent able to understand that.
we are only humans.
it says in the bible that
people never can be able to fully understand gods creations.
(earth universe humans)



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24 Dec 2006, 7:27 am

Gstla2 wrote:
Well God has always existed.
He hasnt our point of view of time.
he has always existed
we arent able to understand that.
we are only humans.
it says in the bible that
people never can be able to fully understand gods creations.
(earth universe humans)


Seems God would love truth. Science is truth. Science can not back up what your
saying so in 2006 God would not respect those with blind faith in him. He loves those that can get to the real truth. And thats a process that will take billions of years and me and you are close to meaningless pawns in that process of evolution. Truth is all that will matter at the end.



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24 Dec 2006, 8:55 am

What happened before the big bang was the big fore play.



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24 Dec 2006, 1:18 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
What happened before the big bang was the big fore play.


Naw, there was a just another universe. It collapsed in a Big Crunch and then the Big Bang happened again. Because to my knowledge it's a logic fallacy to say time has a beginning or an end, thanks to it's infinite nature. Therefore the universe has always existed and it goes through Big Bangs and Big Crunches.


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24 Dec 2006, 8:38 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
Gstla2 wrote:
Well God has always existed.
He hasnt our point of view of time.
he has always existed
we arent able to understand that.
we are only humans.
it says in the bible that
people never can be able to fully understand gods creations.
(earth universe humans)


Seems God would love truth. Science is truth. Science can not back up what your
saying so in 2006 God would not respect those with blind faith in him. He loves those that can get to the real truth. And thats a process that will take billions of years and me and you are close to meaningless pawns in that process of evolution. Truth is all that will matter at the end.


While I disagree with all her religious talk (and lets face it, fossils in the ground have disproven all major religions), I do think it is within our abilities to find the truth through years of study and logical deduction. But one must learn to not think in terms of this world if one is to find the truth. I do not know everything, but, I do feel I am miles ahead of the average person. Also, the other thing in finding the truth.... Don't follow anything 100%.