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01 Jan 2007, 2:32 pm

Honestly, sometimes, as much as I am into politics and political history, it gets to be too much on occasion. Discussing political topics can be such a drain, both emotionally and on relationships.

This was one of the main reasons why I was so reluctant to actually enter to go into this sub-forum (and to a lesser extend the current affairs/news forum). The conflict is inevitable. There is bound to be disagreement. Hard, difficult differences between people that talk friendly on the non-serious (well, not really) part of the board. I wanted to avoid it because I knew that I would get hooked into it quickly, and would not be able to break myself away. But while this gives me new energy it also tests my own lack of self confidence and my desperate wish not to offend others into not liking me.

Sometimes those last two characteristics can be a good thing. When I make a obvious factual mistake (whether it is pointed out, or I notice it myself) I make every effort to correct it. I also try as hard as I can to argue against opinion rather then against person.
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Still, however, I cannot help the negative feelings I get inside sometimes. "Maybe I shouldn't have posted that," I think to myself, "It might have made them angry or upset."

EDIT: Just to be clear (not that anyone has said otherwise), this is a me issue. I don't think the people I have debates with have done anything wrong.



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01 Jan 2007, 3:42 pm

People place me into a political wing, left or right, but I dont know why. They talk within 'political boundaries' when I dont believe in politics themselves. I believe in 'independence' of self from state. Of course, as wacky as my belief is, not many share it. They just dump me 'left' or 'right' of what THEY think.

Of course, then you'd need no countries, no borders, no governments handing my tax money out to whiney people, and worst of all, a society where individuals stop dreaming, come to reality, and take some responsibility.. :wink:



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01 Jan 2007, 4:15 pm

It can be a bit of a drain given the emotional response that many people have about their opinions. I do question why you bring this up though. Do you feel that you have offended anyone? The reason I ask is because it always seems to me that you are more polite and rational compared to many other posters so I would think that you would be the least likely to have problems or difficulties with others. Frankly though, I respect your thought out posts.



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01 Jan 2007, 4:53 pm

Corvus wrote:
...and worst of all, a society where individuals stop dreaming, come to reality, and take some responsibility.. :wink:


heaven forbid!! :lol:


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02 Jan 2007, 1:25 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
It can be a bit of a drain given the emotional response that many people have about their opinions. I do question why you bring this up though. Do you feel that you have offended anyone? The reason I ask is because it always seems to me that you are more polite and rational compared to many other posters so I would think that you would be the least likely to have problems or difficulties with others. Frankly though, I respect your thought out posts.


Thank you for your kind words. I am attempting to think of the appropriate words to give an appropriate response but my mind cannot seem to come to anything satisfactory.. Whatever the issue is I believe is probably an extension of the natural anxieties that I have in everyday life. I haven't noticed offending anybody, but that is something is a worry that strikes me at emotional level. (I am speaking not so much offend on a political level, but rather a personal level).

I suppose I posted this topic as sort of a emotional release. I needed to get it out of my system.



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02 Jan 2007, 1:30 pm

I imagine you are referencing our discussion in the news section

I wouldnt take anything I say or anyone else personally. You are entering a discussion on people's beliefs. In the Saddam thread, I'm merely pointing out that 'hearsay' and the 'hypocrisy' behind everything needs to be questioned. Too many times, society just lets things slide. Well, you don't ask questions then people start taking advantage.

BTW, remove emotion from my posts as I tend to not write with much (or try not to). As well, I wouldnt bother responding to anything else in that thread as I'm not going to respond to any of it. Kind of sick of it, myself



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03 Jan 2007, 4:12 pm

Corvus, I just want to state that I didn't start the topic because of you or in reference to you. It was about my own reactions to just about everybody, not specifically you.



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03 Jan 2007, 4:19 pm

jimservo wrote:
Corvus, I just want to state that I didn't start the topic because of you or in reference to you. It was about my own reactions to just about everybody, not specifically you.


OK, I wasn't sure! :)

And apparently I couldnt resist responding to the thread about Saddam but I'm done, for the time being, guessing on conspiracies. Need to put the mind to something more productive



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03 Jan 2007, 8:32 pm

I don't think there is anything wrong with labeling people on a certain place of a political spectrum. It just these days there is too many generalizations on groups whether they're conservative, liberal, nationalist, socialist, green, or libertarian. I also think many people don't want to admit we administer policies from past governments we heavily condemned.



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03 Jan 2007, 8:53 pm

headphase wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with labeling people on a certain place of a political spectrum. It just these days there is too many generalizations on groups whether they're conservative, liberal, nationalist, socialist, green, or libertarian. I also think many people don't want to admit we administer policies from past governments we heavily condemned.


Pick me! I have a horrible label!! !

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