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07 Jan 2007, 3:59 pm

Gravity Artist's are cool, And a pen and paper? that will work if you use a pen and paper, but if you like using airbrush or spraypaint you need a wall, or Vhc - more place's are opening up but really you can't blaim the kid...

Charity guys are opening up more Gravity drop in center's, some " Car Mod" company's welcome them and have a drop in center - but if they is none in the area thats all they have..

U know you don't like people digging at us, yet you dig at other people?



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07 Jan 2007, 4:01 pm

I apologize for the hack. It was mainly the result of a carelessly written piece of code that allowed him to do a mysql injection and change some things.


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07 Jan 2007, 4:34 pm

No need for you to apologise, Alex. It's not like you forced this little puckeater to do this.

Logitechdog... you do not need a wall as a canvas for an airbrush. I've used airbrushes for years and not once did I "have" to use a wall. And yes, you CAN blame the kid. It's called personal responsibility and accepting responsibility for ones own actions. Those business owners that choose to allow people to paint murals are fine with the idea and so am I. Their building, their rules. This hack, however, is the equivalent of some pathetic twit spraypainting "I haev a lrg peenis" on a building.



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07 Jan 2007, 8:48 pm

*nods*

Alex, do you have the acutal script and exploit that he used in your logs? Or just basing this on the information I shared over the phone?

I have an interest in examining exploits like this, to determine if there is some unannouced flaw in code that is in common use, though I honestly doubt this "Red_Casper" is within the small (maybe 0.5%) group of crackers who have the skill to discover a new exploit.



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08 Jan 2007, 3:13 am

diseased wrote:
No need for you to apologise, Alex. It's not like you forced this little puckeater to do this.

Logitechdog... you do not need a wall as a canvas for an airbrush. I've used airbrushes for years and not once did I "have" to use a wall. And yes, you CAN blame the kid. It's called personal responsibility and accepting responsibility for ones own actions. Those business owners that choose to allow people to paint murals are fine with the idea and so am I. Their building, their rules. This hack, however, is the equivalent of some pathetic twit spraypainting "I haev a lrg peenis" on a building.


Does that apply to As people then, as you probably will not know his background of growing up. The "person attacking the site" is just pointing a flaw in his "sercurity" - they are very helpfull as they not out to course damage - it makes you aware to repair your coding, before someone who is along to course the most damage he can comes along...

/* // If you didn't see that on other page....

Maroc Anti ConneXion
Was Here
Owned By ! !!

b0rizQ and Crack_Man and AbOoM and Red_Casper and Broken-Proxy
Contacts Us :

Security ! ! ... Don't Panic! ... Nothing was deleted ... Only Editing Your Index*

*/



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08 Jan 2007, 4:24 am

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Would not make fun of ( Hackers / Code Exploiters ) - shad... Might be under the belt - but it's not off limits...

To some people, nothing is off limits. That doesn't make it ok. As for what you would or would not do, that has no bearing on my choices.

And as for being "helpful," an e-mail is helpful. Defacement is showing off. Or trying to turn a profit. Or blackmail.



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08 Jan 2007, 4:34 am

Shad Erm Cough Coz your running a COugh, cough of microchop, cough :P

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Threatened to make sure my computer was running a legitimate copy of WinXP



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08 Jan 2007, 4:37 am

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Shad Erm Cough Coz your running a COugh, cough of microchop, cough :P


That, simply put, made no sense. If you're trying to explain why your opinion is supposedly better than mine, you could do a slightly better job. Then again, you frequently seem to think your opinion is better than, well, anyone's.



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08 Jan 2007, 5:02 am

Maybe you think that shad, but you don't see the other person's "Point of View"... And assume that all this negative word's you attach to them, and like I said if that’s what you want to hear so be it but, the truth is you just won't accept the other persons "point of view", and you even do it when someone is trying to help you, if you want an “expert” contact the support link.

At first I thought the beeps where a problem until you said it only happens once a day or not on 1 day & 2 on others…

You say 1 bad thing about other's yet you don't seem to see your attacking the very people that let you run that "microchop", you would not care about the security check if it was a full licence….

You think I should contact Microsoft about it, but that is something I won't do, but don't dig at people that for the very reason your able to sit on it is because of them...



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08 Jan 2007, 5:23 am

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Maybe you think that shad, but you don't see the other person's "Point of View"... And assume that all this negative word's you attach to them, and like I said if that’s what you want to hear so be it but, the truth is you just won't accept the other persons "point of view", and you even do it when someone is trying to help you, if you want an “expert” contact the support link.

At first I thought the beeps where a problem until you said it only happens once a day or not on 1 day & 2 on others…

You say 1 bad thing about other's yet you don't seem to see your attacking the very people that let you run that "microchop", you would not care about the security check if it was a full licence….

You think I should contact Microsoft about it, but that is something I won't do, but don't dig at people that for the very reason your able to sit on it is because of them...


I haven't assumed any negative words, you simply haven't explained why I shouldn't insult this specific "hacker." That's what I was asking about. If you wish to try and undermine my right to have an opinion, be it with your Microsoft threat (go ahead, I don't remember ever claiming I had a bootleg, merely that I didn't like Microsoft snooping. Even if I did, claims aren't the same as proof.) or otherwise, go ahead. Yes, that was a threat, even if you decided to then turn around and "take the moral high ground." Why even bring it up if you weren't going to do anything?

You accuse me of not accepting "the other person's perspective." Until you have proof that these guys only wanted to help, you have no reason to claim your assumptions are more correct than anyone else's. You often seem to do this, correct people for not being more like yourself, whether that be correcting an idea, or correcting the person specifically.

Oh, and by the way, I still wonder why you never responded to my attempts at civil discussion. You give the impression that you didn't want things to go peacefully in the first place. If that's the case, there's no real reason for this current dialogue to continue. Go ahead, attack me again, I don't think anyone's buying what you're selling. Well, you may be, but a company can't make a profit by buying its own products.



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08 Jan 2007, 4:33 pm

At this point, I think this thread should be locked!

(actually it shoudl have been locked about a half dozen posts ago)

Also, can those speaking in this thread learn the difference between a hacker, a cracker, and a script-kiddie. Your know-it-all attitudes and clear lack of knowledge combine to form the same type of viewpoint that has given many, many innocent people, and entire employeement fields a bad name in the eyes of the majority of people.

And this "Red_Casper" is a script kiddie, no doubt about that, and was exploiting a *KNOWN* flaw in the software, one that I personally have been telling Alex about for months. There is nothing to be gained by contacting (g him/her) (Red_Casper) and (g he/she) would have no real knowledge that would be of practial use in securing this site, and it's likely that (g he/she) didn't even personally target the site. This exploit was done only to put (g his/her) name on a search engine, etc.

Alex or a mod, please lock/end thread.



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08 Jan 2007, 4:46 pm

Bateau wrote:
At this point, I think this thread should be locked!

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What grounds should it be locked?



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08 Jan 2007, 4:46 pm

Adapted from Logitechdogs reply
'Fact, which turns to like people then, because you do not know probably its lower surface, in order to grow. „The person, who anpackt the place of assembly “, is, a straw in their "sercurity" referring right - they are very helpfull, like them not outside to hunt for from damage to - this it, sat down to you with the river, in order to repair your coding, before someone, which takes the long-term, can do it around the majority from damage to to hunt, comes length… '

Attempting to read your posts is roughly akin to scrubbing my eyes and brain with broken glass. I ran it through an English-English translator and got this.
Proper use (or even the remotest attempt) of syntax, grammar, spelling etc., will greatly facilitate your attempt to get your point across. This is not me being a grammarnazi... this is simple freakin' communication. If your target audience can't even understand you, then what's the point?
If English is not your first, second or third language, then please ignore this. As well, if you're, say, 7, again, ignore this. My intent it not to rip you a new orifice or mock you; simply put, I'm trying to illustrate how difficult it is to read just about anything you've posted.



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08 Jan 2007, 5:09 pm

diseased wrote:

Attempting to read your posts is roughly akin to scrubbing my eyes and brain with broken glass. I ran it through an English-English translator and got this.
Proper use (or even the remotest attempt) of syntax, grammar, spelling etc., will greatly facilitate your attempt to get your point across. This is not me being a grammarnazi... this is simple freakin' communication. If your target audience can't even understand you, then what's the point?
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Many aspies have banged their heads on the wall over that chaps posts. :D
I rather loose a debate than face that broken glass again.



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08 Jan 2007, 6:22 pm

I've also noticed that this site has been hacked.



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08 Jan 2007, 10:58 pm

http://www.dyslexiaaction.org.uk/Page.aspx?PageId=27

Was never checked against syntax, or might of and didn’t say, mind you I was 8 when diagnosed. Well unless microsoft word has a syntax checker :/

At least people can shut up about me posting the links instead of writing it in my own words :P

What is Machine Translation (MT)?

"Machine Translation" is automatically generated by a computer.

/*
Most programs that claim to provide "Machine Translation" are really just performing a word-by-word dictionary lookup and replacement. However, world class Machine Translation, as seen on FreeTranslation.com is different. These sophisticated systems don't simply translate text word-by-word, they actually analyze sentences based on the grammar rules of the language and translate the words and phrases in the context of the original document.

Since computers don't yet possess "life knowledge", machine translations are not perfect. For example, a computer doesn't know that "dusting" a field means putting dust on it, while "dusting" a table means taking dust off of it. In a language other than English, the translation for "drive" is probably different depending on whether one is driving a golf ball or a car, and a computer can easily get it wrong.
*/


I can see how this will not work against me...