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12 Jan 2007, 6:54 pm

I see these discussions about "are men sexist against themselves", "are women sexist against themselves", and you've made some good points. Kinda like how Mtv tells people subliminally that theyr stupid, and are only good for smoking dope and spending money (obviously making da man a profit). It's the same way with BET, it tells blacks that theyr only good for becoming either basketball players, rappers, or drug dealers, and it's ran by a rich white guy.. So then a black dude decides to become a doctor or a lawyer, or an accountant, and he's dubbed by many of his people "a traitor", which is in essence them being racist against themselves (I see this alot because I'm nearly the only white guy in my neighborhood, so pretty much all my friends are black or brown).
The comes in religion to capitolize on the guilt or low self confidence that previous propaganda had already placed on them. Theyr constantly telling them everything is a "sin", that they'll "burn in hell", and all the hell fire and brim stone speeches. perhaps all this propaganda is to make people submissive so the man can keep control over everyone?
I mean think, beaurocrats run almost all our cultural outlets, in music, movies, entertainment, for propaganda reasons. Television is monitored and strongly sensored (which goes against our constitutional rights). Do you think we'll ever have another activist/musician as influential as Jim Morrison, Jon Lenin, Bob Marley, Tupac, or the like? No, because theyr cutting off access to this stage of getting their voices out. The mainstream is evil these days. All the real stuff is underground.



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12 Jan 2007, 7:54 pm

Although I can be cooperative, I'll never be submissive, and some people have gotten rude reminders of this fact about me.



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12 Jan 2007, 8:08 pm

Ok, this is how it seems to work out. They break society down into various categories, and they can market things to those categories individually specific...... Ok, so they pretty much program things into different demographics, by age, race, religion, sexual prefference, gender, nationality, disability, or anything they can find. They sometimes mentally (quite often actually)pound at the sub-conscious confidence of the people, through propaganda.
Ever seem to notice why autism is only represented in rain man fashion on television? Why disabled people are rarely "cool", why women are treated as sex objects (even though it gives them alot of power), BET for blacks, Mtv for the youth, etc etc.
In music it's even worse off... Ok, so the censors seem to control what can go on, so this cancels out the voices of musician activists from getting to the big stage where they can use their influence to make change. So basically we're getting our voice stripped out culturally, yet the people won't realise it, they'll be fed this mainstream crap from the man, and whatever, but, going back to propaganda, this is how theyr brainwashed through cultural outlets.
When people's sub conscious confidence is already beaten down to some degree, feeding their insecurities, they seek church at the end of the week. They feel it is a place of rest, and a place to heal their wounds. But, in the end they get sub-consciously riddled with guilt. But at the same time they find comfort in their promise of liberation, so they hang on desperately, and the cycle keeps going.



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12 Jan 2007, 8:10 pm

Oh no you misunderstood me, I'm not bashing christianity. I'm bashing the church, theyr too different things... If I were a christian I still wouldn't go to church. The church is the word of man, even if god does exist, the church is the house of man, not god. I mean I personally don't believe in god, but I'm not gonna judge you if you do.



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12 Jan 2007, 8:15 pm

But i'd say the same thing about any religions "house of worship" that believed in a god, be it pagan, christian, jewish, or muslim. Or even buddhism, whose to say that the buddhist scriptures might have been rewritten just like the bible could have been rewritten or the koran, or the talmud? I mean you hafta go back so far to when they all began.



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12 Jan 2007, 8:21 pm

I think if I were gonna follow a religion (I really don't follow any ideaology all the way, but if I did) I'd follow the big message behind it. Often this can be interpreted many ways, I mean look at christianity, and islam, and even atheism, the first two are ideologies which are on paper, about loving thy neighbor and being a good person, but the extremists make it into a message of hatred, anger, and "us vs. them". And the extremist atheist, take logic-based science, which is used for the good of human kind traditionally, as their religion in a since, and turn logic extreme by rubbing it dry.



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12 Jan 2007, 8:23 pm

But my point was in my initial post, and that's what I'd like to concentrate on here, so lets get back on track...



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12 Jan 2007, 8:26 pm

Dude....

There's an edit button ya know



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12 Jan 2007, 9:04 pm

where?



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12 Jan 2007, 9:07 pm

I have always noticed that someone with some sort of mental disability or disorder, always plays the rape victim on tv shows. BET is awful, the message they portray to me is, a young black guy only hope is if he becomes a rapper or is real good in a sport.



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12 Jan 2007, 9:12 pm

The edit button is on the top right, next to the quote button.



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12 Jan 2007, 9:43 pm

Nowadays people are only in the business of making money. Whats even worse than this is that the majority of people tend to sucker themselves into such a pathetic lifestyle. Its all about psychology. These huge ass corporations will send in a bunch of catchy phrases and overly simplistic stereotypes that serve to hype people up and appeal to their emotions. They then spend money on useless crap and start believing in such boneheaded philosophies (well actually they get fanatical) and then they end up screwing themselves over. Of course, you hear about this all the time thanks to our ever so cynical media. I think that if we want this to stop, all of us, both NT's and Aspies, have to stop fooling ourselves and start listening to people who are educated and know what they are talking about. Otherwise...


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12 Jan 2007, 10:13 pm

Its greed that keeps screwing things up - and someone said that was a good thing? It corrupts men. Hell, Lord of the Rings was based around that whole idear.



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13 Jan 2007, 1:28 am

weird.... I don't have an edit button. Anyways, I find this type of behavior irrationally destructive to society. On a number of scales. 1. it divides people further, 2. it makes people weak, and gives them only an illusion of freedom, 3. (this kinda coincides with #2) they get caught up so strong in backwards ideologies that we live in a world full of extremists and psychopaths, and, as if that's not already bad enough, it's the extremists who are motivated to take plight for political office.... Where they can spread their extremist propaganda..... So now it's like a multi-faced gang war for turf control, more or less... You've got the fanatic christians and muslims, fanatic atheists, fanatical feminists all at the top fighting, and then you got the racial hate groups who are gearing for war against not only one another, but they'll end up going against the government too...
The most important thing for people to come to a more blissful world is that we learn to not look down upon one anothers differences, but to embrace them and learn from them, and that we respect all sentient life, and the value of life... But also, the value of freedom of choice... By this I mean that, as bad some may feel about this sensitive subject, an individual has the right to choose to take their own life if they feel it is neccessary. It's free will, and it's only wrong for people to pressure an unhappy person to live an unhappy life, for that is really what selfishness is about. I feel for whoever it was I keep hearing about (the aspie who committed suicide), but we shouldn't condemn him for it. Most of us on here have probably thought about it or attempted it on several occassions in our lifetimes (well those of us who are AS, and maybe some NT for different or similar reasons).

I do believe in the Topilogical Theory of Autism (evolution). But I think there's an interesting dynamic in it though, that we're born mentally enslaved by tribal orders, as this is the sub-conscious rule of NT society. But, we're different, and we have the ability to evolve ourselves in ways most NTs can't. But I do not think a NT is less of a person than me, that's just stupid.
Really though, I don't like labels, the only reason I hang onto my identity in autism is because it would be illogical not to, as this is the reason I am discriminated in my life. We haven't really gained acceptance or social or economic equality yet.



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13 Jan 2007, 1:29 am

weird.... I don't have an edit button. Anyways, I find this type of behavior irrationally destructive to society. On a number of scales. 1. it divides people further, 2. it makes people weak, and gives them only an illusion of freedom, 3. (this kinda coincides with #2) they get caught up so strong in backwards ideologies that we live in a world full of extremists and psychopaths, and, as if that's not already bad enough, it's the extremists who are motivated to take plight for political office.... Where they can spread their extremist propaganda..... So now it's like a multi-faced gang war for turf control, more or less... You've got the fanatic christians and muslims, fanatic atheists, fanatical feminists all at the top fighting, and then you got the racial hate groups who are gearing for war against not only one another, but they'll end up going against the government too...
The most important thing for people to come to a more blissful world is that we learn to not look down upon one anothers differences, but to embrace them and learn from them, and that we respect all sentient life, and the value of life... But also, the value of freedom of choice... By this I mean that, as bad some may feel about this sensitive subject, an individual has the right to choose to take their own life if they feel it is neccessary. It's free will, and it's only wrong for people to pressure an unhappy person to live an unhappy life, for that is really what selfishness is about. I feel for whoever it was I keep hearing about (the aspie who committed suicide), but we shouldn't condemn him for it. Most of us on here have probably thought about it or attempted it on several occassions in our lifetimes (well those of us who are AS, and maybe some NT for different or similar reasons).

I do believe in the Topilogical Theory of Autism (evolution). But I think there's an interesting dynamic in it though, that we're born mentally enslaved by tribal orders, as this is the sub-conscious rule of NT society. But, we're different, and we have the ability to evolve ourselves in ways most NTs can't. But I do not think a NT is less of a person than me, that's just stupid.
Really though, I don't like labels, the only reason I hang onto my identity in autism is because it would be illogical not to, as this is the reason I am discriminated in my life. We haven't really gained acceptance or social or economic, or in many cases educational equality yet.



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13 Jan 2007, 2:04 pm

Well, and if my theory proves correct, we will be the future of humanity (assuming we're not eliminated through pre natal testing).