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24 Sep 2011, 8:46 pm

LostUndergrad9090 wrote:
K I'm not sure what you were saying then.


Okay, well I'm not sure I can help you understand what I was saying then.



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24 Sep 2011, 9:04 pm

It would have shown an understanding of something else because that is something I would probably do. But that contradicts everything because by definition an isomer is same molecular formula but different structure. Which is true for a cycloalkane vs long chain vs an iso of any variation of the isos. They are all the same molecular formula. 2,2-DimethylHexane, 2-isobutylbutane, and cyclooctane or 2,2-Dimethylcyclohexane.



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24 Sep 2011, 11:39 pm

I was talking about the test, not the content of the test. If you answer your questions in ignorance it matters not whether you get the answers right or wrong, you should still not be given the credit for that which you do not know at the time of the test. You learn the correct answer later, congrats that's learning from your mistakes, but it doesn't count for when you were supposed to demonstrate knowledge you randomly pull up memories and they happened to be close to the right terms.

You seem to keep repeating the definition of an isomer, a molecule which is identical in chemical formula but geometrically different. Congrats on knowing that, but still if you provided answers haphazardly you should be marked wrong for them.



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25 Sep 2011, 12:38 am

I keep saying it because my point revolves around it and yes I do because I believe I do deserve credit for it, despite knowing I pulled the answer out of my ass, my reasons will validate in a few sentences. It still follows the definition of an Isomer. So should count as credit. It would not surprise me for my teacher not to be able to abstractly determine the validity of my answer or see where I am coming from. and I have reasons for deserving credit, being under taught. Yes college is 5050 on teacher reliance and my own reliance on learning the material but if the material isn't taught then why should we be tested on it? This teacher shouldn't be teaching Organic and many people agree on this. She should teach from the test or what is going to be on the test or create a test from the material. If the goal is to pass the test and not have an understanding. Not do whatever the hell she wants. Despite that I do not care. I do want to keep an outstanding gpa this semester but as long as I don't have to retake that sh***y environment then I am fine.



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25 Sep 2011, 12:44 am

Plus I am proud of myself for being able to do something like that especially organic chemistry and me knowing who I am. Just call me low scholastic learner, thats who I think I am. and No i'm not looking for credit for being proud of myself either. I am just saying. 3 years no high school and multiple head injuries I'm stoked granted that test is probably going to be an F because I didn't study enough/ didn't go with my instinct on writing an eclipse or rigid really would of been partial but whatever. f**k I'm just stoked for staying in school this long without letting whatever you want to call it get the better of me. s**t.



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25 Sep 2011, 7:06 am

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... despite knowing I pulled the answer out of my ass ... that test is probably going to be an F because I didn't study enough


And I keep saying that despite how close your answer is to right that those reasons quoted above are the reasons why you oughtn't be given credit.

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I'm just stoked for staying in school this long without letting whatever you want to call it get the better of me.


Disillusionment.



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25 Sep 2011, 9:52 am

Disillusionment caused or created by the people who wrote it or something of the like.



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25 Sep 2011, 7:59 pm

LostUndergrad9090 wrote:
Disillusionment caused or created by the people who wrote it or something of the like.

OR maybe it's because of...

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... 3 years no high school and multiple head injuries ...

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... I didn't study enough ...

... but those are just guesses.

A wrong answer is a wrong answer, regardless of how it was derived, where it came from, or however "close" it may be to the right answer.


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25 Sep 2011, 9:16 pm

thats what i was getting at, they were caused by me and by people. A bike was created by a person and thus I chose to ride it and thus created my disillusionment. The definiton created by a person and thus that is why he give me that name. People were in school and people were my parents thus creating my 3 years of no high school. I'm sure there is more to this but I am definintly not read of enough for that. So for now this is my cause for disillusionment and whatever I said before.

Yes a wrong answer is a wrong answer because it is created only to be right but not wrong. If it was created a different way then it could be right. Maybe, not sure on this, my understanding is a bit off. But on the level of right or wrong yes an answer is wrong if it is not right following the lines of what is needing to be right.

This could all be wrong and I admit to that but this is my understanding so wtf? I'm sure something can be pulled from this.



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25 Sep 2011, 11:54 pm

:roll:

The fault, dear Scholar, is not in your studies, but in yourself.

Stop looking for ways to blame others for your problems.


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26 Sep 2011, 12:36 am

I wasn't blaming if i did it wasnt intended for that. I was pleaing a cause or a reason; It was not a blame. Edit- if I blamed in the previous posts it was not intended for that. I am giving causes and how I think I should of been graded despite the absolute wrong or right by the definition from whatver what was said. This is becoming tiring I can't keep up with this. (blame) possibly; cause sure there is.



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27 Sep 2011, 6:28 am

ochem is evil; class avg is usually really low.