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I've meet lots of educated people unable to find good paying job. I hear the news media babbling there is a shortage of skilled labor and in the real world skilled labor says they can't find good jobs.

It easy to set the job requirements so narrow nobody can meet them and than whine labor shortage to the government to try and get green card visa workers. That's what many of the IT firms do to get cheap help.

I used to drive a truck and the industry whines non stop about a labor shortage. They do a fairly good job at attracting and training unskilled labor, but can't retain it because of the pay & working conditions. If there was an actual shortage, the pay and working conditions would improve.

http://fleetowner.com/management/featur ... _shortage/

I'm 47 years old with over 10 years experiance and a clean driving record and good work record. I wouldn't get in any of the scumbags trucks under the pay & working conditions offered. You want fries with that would come out of my mouth before a steering wheel would go in my hands again.
If there was a shortage I would buy a truck and be able to almost name my price to haul freight. If somebody gave me a truck for free, I wouldn't take it and waste my time because nobody wants to pay.

When I go to the grocery store and see some empty shelves, than I will agree with the trucking industry there is a labor shortage and I will look at the help wanted ad's an expect to see the wages doubled and the working conditions improved.

"where the government has already intervened(education) is not working for whatever reason"
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It's called IQ, the average person is a idiot, some of them are above average idiots and can stumble through college and become educated idiots.

There are a limited number of high IQ people that have common sense,problem solving skills,can see the bigger picture and who have the social skills to advance in the labor force to meet their full potential. Oh yeah plus they need to look ok, short people,ugly people,fat people will be skipped over in favor of good looking stupid people and management will complain they can't find any good help even though they hired a stupid pretty boy and let ugly people more capable of doing the job slip right through their fingers.

Turn off the TV set, the people putting out the news stories are morons who took journalism in college because it was what their little brains could handle and the real flunky journalism majors work for print media. The total flunkies became education majors knowing they would never ever make it in even in the lame forhire world of journalism so they flopped their sorry butts into union protected teachers jobs where once they got their foot in the door they would be set for life. They knew they would never make it in the real world and people think they are the answer to improving the job skills of society

Got a problem with a computer ask a truck driver,good chance they resorted to the industry after their IT career went nowhere.

Really? I have heard of a general engineering shortage for years now and starting salaries for fresh blood with a 50,000 dollar average. I really wasn't concerned about IT so much as just T, as well as vocational schools for people such as plumbers and electricians, who also do incredibly well as far as the market is concerned.

I will agree with you on the truck driver aspect of markets. My concern is on the fact that current systems focus too highly on college over vocational school, and that math and science education for high schoolers in the states is not as good as that found in many other countries, on the average. Not only that but not very much focus is really being paid attention to on how to promote engineering and scientific achievement in our schools, the idea too often is go to college, pick a major, figure out the hard stuff on life after, while it forgets the deep economic impact of the choice of a major and the actual economic trade-offs to be considered.

I will not deny that the average person is an idiot, however, that does not explain the failures found in education to promote future growth. Not only that but the government's intervention in education also has another effect, as to some extent it perpetuates the over focus on college, when vocational schools would be better for those who don't cut the mustard. There was a recent article in the Wall Street Journal on this aspect of vocational training, and it was by a conservative economist.

Actually though, I don't usually watch television, and when looking at labor markets I was looking more at a book I recently read on the rise of inequality, which was a report by several economists. Really though, I'd say that a large aspect of this problem is just our failure to promote proper education in some areas.

I read that 3 part series in the wall street journal. Most educators are too closed minded to ever get it.

I know somebody who is a home builder, just a husband & wife who build one custom home at a time and they have problems getting subcontractors to do various things like plumbing,heating an air condition and the rest of it.

Is there a shortage or just a lack of people sitting around with nothing to do that will jump when they say jump ? When they have to wait until the plumber can get to them,they preceive a shortage.

The problem could be what I saw in the trucking industry, people get spoiled when there is ample idle labor around that will jump when they say jump.

We are used to waiting in line at stores to pay. Now what if the workers where paid on percentage of the sales the rung up and the store had ample supplies of starving labor willing to stand around like 14 hours a day, we would hardly ever have to wait to check out at the cash registers.

So in therory if we have to wait to pay for a purchase at a store, there is a cashier shortage. reality is we are unwilling to pay for all that excess labor to hang around on the clock most of the time or there is a shortage of people willing to get screwed having to hang around a cash register endless hours a week for percentage pay and not make out too well for doing it.

Is here a shortage in the trades or just not enough idle labor around to offer instant service ?

people got spoiled by having labor lined up begging for whatever scraps would be thrown their way.There is almost nothing that can't be bought in this country including labor, somebody can cry there is a truck driver shortage,but if they really want one,just up the wages 50% and there will be ample supply. For the people who can't afford to pay the price,their product isn't viable in the marlet place if nobody is willing to pay the price for it because of the labor costs.

Want an electrician,carpenter,engineer offer 50% over the going rate and you will have all you want,they will drop off projects that are less important and work on projects that are more viable in the market place.

The fact wal-mart is full of toys and other junk we can live without is proof there are plenty of highly skilled people around willing to work for whatever they can get developing and marketing that junk.If there was a shortage the labor would flow to products needed to sustain life, we all would pay to have food,clothing & shelter and the rest of the junk in the market place would vanish.

we need housing more than another freaken Dunkin Donuts, if the demand for skilled labor in the trades was really tight, it would flow to who ever wanted it more. The fact we will wait to get something built when labor is tight is proof there really isn't a shortage,just a shortage of excess labor in the building trades.

There is a limited amount of oil, the price refects that. The supply can't be expanded.There is still a limit to what people will pay for it and the Arabs know it.

The labor rackteers just want an over supply of cheap labor they can whore out so they can get rich and don't care how much of the national wealth and resources are thrown at education.Paying high wages cuts into their profit margines or makes their junk not viable in the market place in the first place.

Billions of dollars of public money has been wasted on truck driver training alone and the teachers unions are working the education scam for all they can.

My guess is about 80% of the money spent on my so called education was a waste. i have no art skills there was no point in me being in art class,gym class another waste,music class another waste,algerbra another pointless subject.
What I am skilled at isn't even offered by the public school system because the morons running it haven't a clue.