Aspergian Liberation Organization (ALO)

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Thanks.

It can take a little getting used to - but you can have a play around by mocking up a reply to any old post and simply don't press "Submit" when you've finished with it.
Instead, use the "Preview" button to see how it would look when posted.

Chopping up posts into bite-sized chunks for quoting, ready for a response, is often just a case of placing the "tags" in the right place around some text you want to respond to and deleting the other stuff you don't respond to.
Have a look at this post (click "quote") as if you were going to reply and you'll see how I've used the "quote" tags to format text into blocks.



They can be a little fragile, in that you need to make sure the starting and ending tags are balanced - that is, the [tagname] and [/tagname] forms - but it's easy once you get the hang of it.

and if you open the same thread on a different tab or window it is easy to copy, paste, and quote.

Hey, Thanks Guys.

I'm using my internet explorer browser( which i don't care for) instead of my firefox browser.

Works great, now.

TheSunAlsoRises

Science has determined that neurocognitive differences exist in individuals with autism spectrum disorders.

The laws in the US code that the EEOC uses in determining eligibility for protection under the ADA, includes Autism as inherently meeting the basic ADA legal definition for a disorder that significantly limits one in a major area of physiological functioning per limits in brain functioning. It is among the list of disorders that US code suggests in most cases would be expected to meet the assessment requirements of ADA defined disability.

The language in US code does not specify autism disorders or aspergers, it specifies autism, so there no clear determination for the term Autism at this point in time whether or not it includes Aspergers or all autism spectrum disorders.

However, as the separate disorder of Aspergers is eliminated, and everyone diagnosed whom retains a diagnosis of an autism spectrum disorder falls under the one umbrella of Autism Spectrum Disorder, those individuals with Aspergers whom are subsumed into the Autism Spectrum Disorder will fall into the same autism category as everyone else, as an individual whom is diagnosed with a disorder that by US Code inherently limits brain functioning and would in most cases be expected to meet the ADA definition of disability.

The neurocognitive impairments in non-verbal communication, that at this time is not a mandatory criteria of the DSMIV for Aspergers, is a limit of brain function that is not necessarily indicative of below normal intelligence. This criteria becomes mandatory in the DSMV, as currently proposed.

Hans Aspergers main observation in characterizing Aspergers was impairments in non-verbal communication. Technically, individuals without any non-verbal communication difficulties, would not meet the requirements under the proposed DSMV criteria for autism spectrum disorder, while at present non-verbal communication impairments is one of four criteria, of which two must be met.

If one meets the definition of disability under the ADA, one is currently covered by the good faith effort required to hire individuals under the Federal regulations governing Affirmitive action by Federal Contractors, and subcontractors. This includes individuals with autism and aspergers who have been assessed as meeting the disability requirements for the ADA.

There is currently a legislative effort per link below to provide an actual quota for disabled individuals in federal regulations associated with Affirmitive action, which will more closely reflect current quotas associated with protections for minorities and women.

http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/hiring/affirmativeact.htm

http://iowaemployerlaw.com/2011/12/09/sweeping-changes-in-affirmative-action-requirements-for-disabled-workers-to-be-proposed-today/

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2011-12-09/pdf/2011-31371.pdf


There is realistically no potential that individuals whom are diagnosed with the DSMV proposed autism spectrum disorder, a neurological disorder, that by law is one of the conditions listed that normally meets the definition of ADA disability, could ever qualify as a minority any more than individuals with Epilepsy, another neurological disorder, per affirmitive action laws.

Autism Spectrum Disorder fits within the same legal definitions as all other individuals diagnosed with disorders listed in US code as normally meeting the definition of disability under the ADA.

The potential of individuals without any diagnosis, whom are under a broad phenotype in variation of neurocognitive differences gaining some type of affirmitive action legal protection, as a minority, is about as likely as introverts gaining legal protection as a minority.

However, there are some introverts who feel they are discriminated against in what some describe as a society advantaged to extroverts, although that general scenario appears to be changing too, to the dismay of some extroverts as well.

All the legal protections available now and in the future related to Autism and affirmative action, will most certainly be associated with disability rights common to the rest of the population for those determined as meeting the requirements for the ADA definition of disability.

The good news is, with the DSMV it is likely going to be easier for all individuals with an Autism Spectrum Disorder diagnosis to gain legal rights through the ADA and through federal regulations that govern affirmitive action for federal contractors and subcontractors in regard to disability protections in employment. Particularly, if the new federal regulations are passed which provides actual quotas for hiring the disabled.

If one does not want to be labeled with a disorder that in US code is listed as a disorder that normally meets the ADA legal definition of disability, the only option is to avoid a diagnosis.

Unless changes to US code eliminate Autism from the current list of disorders defined as meeting the normal requirements for ADA disability, which would be years away for the next revision of that code, and highly unlikely, everyone with the new Autism Spectrum disorder diagnosis will fall under US code among the other listings of disorders determined as inherently disabling per legal definition of ADA disability.

Excellent - looking much better!
But - don't quote your own text... Just type it straight in after the final closing quote tag of the block you're responding to.

According to this source linked below, the EEOC governing agency that enforces the ADA, has clarified that the term Autism in the lists of disorders in EEOC regulations pertaining to the ADA in US code, that will virtually always be found in an inherent limit in functioning, in meeting the legal definition of ADA disability, includes all autism spectrum disorders including Aspergers.

Note: EEOC Regulations in US code pertaining to the ADA, are separate from the actual Americans with Disabilities Act.

This clarifies the concern previously posed by ASAN as to whether or not Aspergers is included under the term Autism in EEOC Regulations in US code, listing disorders that will virtually always be asessed as disability under the ADA definition of disability

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https://askjan.org/media/asperger.html

If you're not a lawyer, brother, you missed your calling. I find it reassuring to have you around.

Longshanks

Thank you.

It's said that the C students in law school end up as the lawyers and the A students in law school end up being law clerks.

The social communication element seems relevant. It takes people skills to be a lawyer, but almost none to be a law clerk.

One normally wants what they don't have. I searched an entire life trying to find my people skills; I came close enough to feel good about it, at some points in my life. I would have traded all the good grades and fact finding abilities in for the ability of those C students in the social arts of life.

I had a friend that went to law school; I knew I could easily find myself lost in a world of analyzing laws; I was terrified of what I saw as a trap.

There is alot to be said for neuroplasticity, it can distance one from the predisposed traps of biology.

Google is great, but in effect can be a trap for an individual that has the propensity to follow facts.

I think in someways it is good to miss one's calling to take one into a much larger world, that they might not of had the opportunity to visit if they had listened to that calling.

I feel fortunate in that respect.

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its nice to know others actually know what the laws are.(in the U.S.)


for others heres a link
AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990, AS AMENDED TITLE 42 CHAPTER 126 - EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES
http://www.ada.gov/pubs/adastatute08.htm#12117b