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Socialites are typically brown nosers who suck up to management and take credit for hardworking people who remain stuck in the same role for years on end. Aspergers when in roles are typically the guy who does most of the work and some other person takes all the credit for the work. Socialites get promoted, antisocial hard working person remains stuck in the same role for years on end.

I'd like to get an answer to this as well. It seems that a lot of jobs that Aspies are "good at" are basic or entry level with little room for promotion. I'd love to find a career field where I can excel, get promoted, and get some sort of job satisfaction... all without ever having to talk to another person. Seriously though, any thoughts?

This, many times over.

managertina said socialites still work? Some do, but not as much or as well most of the time. Many of them are VERY skilled at taking credit for the work of others and deflecting blame on others - or at least keeping negative attention on someone else so they can do whatever they want.

Gad... if they just put that same amount of effort into ACTUAL WORK! *sigh*

we need to be the majority in a company, so we don't get minoritied out. i don't care if someone's sociable if they can't do their work. if we could just be the majority, we wouldn't have to be at the mercy of NTs all the time and their politics which is a waste of productivity.

um i posted a job advertisment. i just got hired at a car plant company. i was hoping some other aspie would join my workgroup so i could have a friend. plz mail me if you are looking for a job and can get to richmond hill.

Yes, in my opinion they do.

The chitchat over what is happening at different locations in my organization, I can sometimes see, shows the differences between them, and where some still need to grow.

What a coincidence, I used to live in Richmond HIll.

That is not all the chatting though, and not all of it is useful.

Anyway, I am by no means popular, just FYI.

Anyways,

in sum,

what I was trying to say is the following:

I do not like when people describe all Aspies in one brushstroke. But I think it equally wrong to depict all NTs who are skilled in socializing with the same brushstroke either. There is room for all of us.

I have been the quiet worker. And have been gossiped about, trust me. And have been misunderstood. But I still feel that it is wrong to overgeneralize any one group.

I have a theory so far... it would appear from my own life and that of everyone I know, that the more social a person is, the less they actually care about others at all (empathy-wise.)

As the scale keeps sliding upward to being social as a priority - the scales of abilities and care/concern/love for OTHERS slide downward.

Obviously there's always a rare few who contradict this, but the vast majority of "socialites" certainly follow this model. I wonder if it's something in the constant thought process of worrying about how you can appear best to everyone leads to becoming a habitual manipulator... protecting one's social image becomes the greatest of all fears and increasing it the highest of all priorities. I've seen the most social people eventually become manipulating sociopaths - master manipulators.

Many of us have this dislike because of the poor treatment we've received - and the more social they are, the more cruelly they treat us. Many of us have been manipulated, had credit for our good work stolen, mistakes blamed on us instead of themselves. Because of them, we've lost respect from our peers, lost promotions, lost money, jobs, security, spouses, families, even our very freedom.

There's something about us that socialites universally despise... I wish I could put my finger on just what that is though. Is it because we're completely immune to all those social minutiae they focus their whole lives on? Is it because we don't "play the game"?

I might draw lots of flak for saying this, but yeah... I suspect that people who are extremely charming, manipulative and outgoing might be psychopaths.

Based on my own experiences, I agree with many of the points mentioned in the article below. (Introverts who groom themselves into extroverts are usually charming and competent, but they are "dangerous" in the sense that they have a tendency to make your life miserable if you ever offend them.)
Extroverted Introverts

Years ago, one of my classmates, XXX, half-joked and half-complained to a teacher in front of the whole class that her friend, YYY, "made me do all the dirty work, then took all credit for herself". YYY, who was present, smiled upon hearing that. To my surprise, the teacher told XXX that YYY is a good leader because good leaders are mostly skilled at delegating work to others. (Both XXX and YYY were nice towards me and YYY has already secured a high-paying job offer from a government ministry despite her young age. I have spoken to many NTs who say that people like YYY can usually "achieve great things" because they are good at delegating work.)

Eventually someone has to do the work.

LOL... answering an online interview questionnaire... one was "Supervisors base most of their promotion decisions on whether or not they like the person."

Heh... I think I'll give 'em the answer they're looking for rather than the truth of VERY YES.

How do you ever truly know that. I am not an expert on cognitive biases would be what I would say.

Also I have trouble doing that as I think of that as technically lying.

Gah... I tried to be truthful AND give answers they'd like to see... I just got the rejection letter this afternoon. BAH!!