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16 May 2013, 8:08 am

In my Polish my language we have saying "Ukręcić sprawie łeb" meaning if someone do something wrong, illegal unethical and he or she is public figure politician or authority figure, the case is settled outside or courtroom/ or media, so nobody is knew, and if somebody made complain is forced to be silent or lose job.



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16 May 2013, 8:47 am

I think that's called a "cover-up."

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16 May 2013, 9:10 am

The method is called an "Out-of-court settlement" or just "settling". The intention is to "cover it up"



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16 May 2013, 10:20 am

About three years ago we have scandal in Polish Air force General sexually arousing his female employees (secretaries) , when the scandal broke he was forced to retire, one of abused women press charge. The guy was tried by military court and was sentenced to demotion to private and two years in prison suspended for three years( with mean if he again do something naughty he will serve prison time)

He was tied by military because all crimes he committed during his serving in Polish Armed Force and therefore he was tried under authority our Polish Military Justice Code. Since he was demoted, his retirement pension was also reduced to private rank retirement pension.

He intimidated women who were his subordinates, those who refused sex, they were bullied to lose their jobs, as did the women who wanted to make the case to court. One woman refused to be intimidated and make complaint she was fired. Polish Army General Staff (Our Polish Pentagon :D ) did not want a scandal, so the matter swept under the carpet, the guy was forced to retire.

I wonder if the other armies(UK, US, Germany Russia), there generals has been demoted?

I personally thing the guy deserved his punishment, i also think he should serve prison sentence, but he was suspended sentence.
I think also that my country should have "perverts register" like is in UK or US, to humiliate such perverts more.

http://lotniczapolska.pl/Sad-zdegradowal-generala,16922



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16 May 2013, 10:39 am

The phrase we have for that is called "handling it in-house". It means that the organization that the accused is part of punishes them. rather than allowing the courts to do their thing.

The only example I can think of off the top of my head is the case of Col. Oliver North. When Congress turned their back on the formerly US-funded Contra rebels in Nicaragua, he paid several billion American to the Iranians to supply the Contras with weaponry. This was a violation of our policy towards Iran, as well as our policy, developing at the time, of not funding terrorist organizations, which the Contras most certainly were. I don't believe that he served prison time, but I do know he was stripped of his rank and expelled from the military.

A similar example to yours is the resignation of Gen. Petraeus as head of the CIA, after he had an affair with a journalist.



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16 May 2013, 12:36 pm

It's called a "pay off"


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16 May 2013, 1:49 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
It's called a "pay off"



To what you referring?



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16 May 2013, 2:06 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
It's called a "pay off"



To what you referring?


To what you describe in your original post.


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16 May 2013, 3:23 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
It's called a "pay off"



To what you referring?


To what you describe in your original post.


You referring to the poor ex-general that has been demoted :-)

He defending himself on court martial, that hasn't do all wrong to this women, that all women liked his company

Yes hes get what he deserved :D



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17 May 2013, 8:51 am

Two years seems pretty mild of a punishment for statutory rape. In a Western nation he would of gotten a lot more than that.



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17 May 2013, 3:40 pm

AldousH wrote:
Two years seems pretty mild of a punishment for statutory rape. In a Western nation he would of gotten a lot more than that.



statutory rape?, i think that statutory rape is about sexually exploiting of minors. I think it can be considered regular rape, he sexually abused adult women his subordinate, abused power and "he committed Conduct unbecoming an officer" as military judge said.



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18 May 2013, 7:14 pm

corruption, coverup, scandal (if its uncovered),...

A few more terms that are kinda equivalent to what you're talking about.

If the 'dirty linen' gets exposed its called a 'scandal'. If it doesnt get exposed then its a...potential scandal!

Come to think of it- there isnt any exact term in english for something that isnt yet a scandal because it hasnt been exposed yet. Or I cant think of any.



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19 May 2013, 12:04 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Come to think of it- there isnt any exact term in english for something that isnt yet a scandal because it hasnt been exposed yet. Or I cant think of any.

Smoking gun. :)



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19 May 2013, 6:12 am

Political cover up or whitewash.

Also the part in which someone is paid to be silent is a bribe, and the part about threatening to be silent is witness intimidation.



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19 May 2013, 9:07 am

pawelk1986 wrote:
About three years ago we have scandal in Polish Air force General sexually arousing his female employees (secretaries) ,


I think you mean 'sexually abusing' - 'sexually arousing' implies it was consensual, since arousal usually signals enjoyment. So you've just basically implied they enjoyed it...

I think it was a typo, since later, you said it correctly as 'sexually abusing'

Sorry to hear that happened. It has happened a lot in the military apparently...there are headlines about cases in the US also. The military was a man's club for so long, and it seems women's place there is in question.