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27 Oct 2014, 2:31 pm

I agree with MjrMajorMajor...

ETA: and RocketMom. I agree with her post too.


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27 Oct 2014, 2:34 pm

We all have our personal tastes and preferences, but sometimes you just take a deep breathe and accept that while something bothers you, there actually are worse choices that could have been made. And I think that is the case here; there is no actual harm, and to the kids there is nothing sexual at all to footie PJs and the like, just warm and cuddly memories of a time that isn't all that far back.

Do I think it's weird? I do. I think 90% of the things teenagers do are weird and distasteful. That is the whole point of me being my age and them being their age.

I draw the hard, fast line where it is absolutely necessary, and then just try to not see the rest. It's the only way to keep your sanity.


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27 Oct 2014, 3:18 pm

And, yes, high-school aged kids are going to flirt, and act "cute" (in quotes because I don't find it cute at all), and willingly infantilize themselves (and enjoy doing it), and play dumb, and a whole lot of other things we as parents (especially we Aspie parents, since chances are we didn't do this crap and don't understand it) know aren't good ideas.

Why are they going to do things we know aren't good ideas?? Well-- How do we know they aren't good ideas?? Most times, it's because our parents told us (or our friends' and relatives' parents told them) that it was dumb...

...and we/they up and did it anyway, and we either ate the fruit or sat back enjoying, for once, the relative protection of our late-bloomerness while they had to eat it.

It didn't kill us, it didn't kill them, and it probably won't kill our kids either.

That said, I'm thankful my 13-year-old is still looking like a late bloomer (and I am absolutely going to burn the uber-padded bra that my cousin bought her, because my cousin was sexually active at 13 and I'd like my daughter to be a little closer to 31).

I'm not a prude. As long as they're not directly harming someone, people can do what they do.

But I am an overprotective mother.


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27 Oct 2014, 6:34 pm

I do not really see what is perverted about pajama day, I would imagine the pajamas would still have to follow the dress code....which means very revealing ones would not be allowed probably. I have a pair of feet pajamas and I am 25 so yeah I simply don't see the big deal. Also though pretty sure the students are at the age the can handle more adult things than say elementary or middle school kids...either way I see no correlation with pajamas and perversion.


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27 Oct 2014, 6:55 pm

I do think maybe a bit too much is being read into it. Yes, infantilization is a degrading thing that society does to women that some people actually get off on...

...but footie pajamas are also soft and warm and comforting and something that is generally just, you know, nice to wear. I'm WAY more worried about the stuff that amplifies, magnifies, and leaves doggone near NOTHING to the imagination (or the stuff with words that even I can tell are highly suggestive painted on the fanny).

I bought my 10-year-old footie pajamas. If we still lived in a drafty, dilapidated cabin that wouldn't heat warmer than 62 degrees with totally uninsulated floors, I'd buy them for her now that she's 13. Those floors were FREEZING, and I HATE to mate socks.

If I found them second-hand in my size (or I get my hands on a good pattern), I will own a pair of footie pajamas, and I'm 36. They're nice and warm (and I don't care if I look autistic wearing them-- I am autistic, if I can't look autistic once in a while, then what's the point??).

It gets cold in PA in the wintertime. I hear they're raising the price of natural gas 30% over the course of this winter.


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27 Oct 2014, 7:11 pm

There's nothing wrong with children wearing footies, obviously. There's nothing wrong with adults wearing them in their own homes. Teenage girls wearing them to school while clutching teddy bears, however, is creepy in a toddlers-in-tiaras way.
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28 Oct 2014, 4:47 am

YippySkippy wrote:
It's kind of pervy for a couple of reasons:

1 The girls were infantilizing themselves, which is done to make women appear sexually vulnerable.
2 They're wearing what they wear to bed - you know, the place where people usually mate.

That said, I am a prude. I make no apologies for it. :D


The place where people usually sleep how about?

Besides pajamas are not usually worn for mating.


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28 Oct 2014, 4:54 am

YippySkippy wrote:
There's nothing wrong with children wearing footies, obviously. There's nothing wrong with adults wearing them in their own homes. Teenage girls wearing them to school while clutching teddy bears, however, is creepy in a toddlers-in-tiaras way.
IMHO


I do not see how that is creepy at all, especially if it is pajama day.....and why would there be something wrong with wearing pajamas outside the home? Unconventional and not how you want to go to work, but what if you just have to run to the store real quick or just go out and check the mail I see no sense in getting all dressed if you're wearing pajamas.


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28 Oct 2014, 12:26 pm

I don't see the connection between the pajama day and the other issue. While I find the pajama day a little weird, you said they were wearing footie pajamas and carrying teddy bears.... I dont see an issue. The making out is a separate issue, kids will do that no matter what. It's not perverted or wrong, it's actually pretty natural and it's something that teenagers have been doing for millennia.



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28 Oct 2014, 5:28 pm

I don't see a problem with it, though I guess I see how it could be interpreted a certain way. i think if they were wearing "baby doll" nighties or something I could see objecting more. Most of the sexualized stuff is revealing and childish. Like I could see objecting to the "Lolita look" fashion items. To me footie pajamas are about comfort, and even if they a;so have teddy bears, so what? Lots of older girls have stuffed animals, and I don't get how that is sexual.

I think what the girls wear for cheerleading is way worse, and much more fetishized, if that is the issue.



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29 Oct 2014, 8:49 pm

There is a huge difference between the totally covered top to bottom footie pajamas, than a shorty, baby doll pj shorts and a spaghetti strapped, half see through shirt. You should be counting your blessings you saw covered feet and not butt cheeks hanging out.

The simulated sex acts, yeah...not a fan of...

If the teen fools want to dress up in a unicorn onesie and cart around an Elmo or Pooh Bear for the day *shrug* .



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06 Nov 2014, 10:24 pm

OP, perhaps consider this from the perspective of the kids participating. It's not about infantilization, or sex, it's about embarrassment, in a positive way, like comedians who are self-deprecating. By making it a school-wide event, it's inviting kids to basically make fun of themselves and each other a bit, by saying, 'yeah, I still sleep with my bear,' or especially for girls, showing how they look dressed down in sloppy clothes without the pressure they might normally feel to make themselves look a certain way in front of their peers. And because it's a group activity, you can do that and still fit in. That's what makes it fun?the shared joke. It's also a small concession to letting kids who have to conform to codes of conduct and dress on a daily basis step outside those boundaries a little, the same as a casual Friday or jersey day at an average workplace. I can see why it makes you uncomfortable as an adult onlooker, because it's horribly awkward. It's also horribly awkward seeing someone in half-smeared-off blue body paint and nothing else but white shorts and a red hat when it's 40 degrees out, but these kids aren't wearing pajamas randomly on the street any more than someone dressed up like a smurf is casually barhopping on a night that's not Halloween.