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25 Jul 2005, 11:35 am

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That is simply not true. Yes they had dreams of "purifying" the race etc. etc. BUT killing disabled people was not the goal of this. Only getting rid of SOME disabled people, or sterilising them (just like in America) so they could not have children.

Otherwise, if they had had the goal of eradicating all disabled people, they would have had to kill off all their disabled war veterans, too.

Making this atrocity "all about disabled people and their rights" seems rather sickening to me.


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Forced sterilization in Germany was the forerunner of the systematic killing of the mentally ill and the handicapped. In October 1939, Hitler himself initiated a decree which empowered physicians to grant a "mercy death" to "patients considered incurable according to the best available human judgment of their state of health." The intent of the socalled "euthanasia" program, however, was not to relieve the suffering of the chronically ill. The Nazi regime used the term as a euphemism: its aim was to exterminate the mentally ill and the handicapped, thus "cleansing" the "Aryan" race of persons considered genetically defective and a financial burden to society.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... abled.html


Sterilization was just the beginning.


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25 Jul 2005, 12:33 pm

tell the curebie bastard to go screw themselves cuz i wont have mercy on these a**holes. they can all die and go to hell for all i care.
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25 Jul 2005, 12:44 pm

I have a book (called "the third reich") which says that the nazi eugenics doctors were divided on what should be done with "Autistic Savants". Some thought they should be "disposed of" with the rest, while some thought they were useful members of the Nazi Germany society. What Hitler himself thought on the subject,,,,does anyone know?



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25 Jul 2005, 12:53 pm

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If someone tried to destroy all Aspies I would fight to the last. If anyone tried to eradicate Asperger's 'sufferers' I will bomb the living daylights out of the rest of humanity, using letter bombs etc.


OMG, Homeland Security is going to be pouring all over our boards now.


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25 Jul 2005, 1:58 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Hey, I'm not worried - some brilliant person with AS will come up with a way to curb the problem of the genetically "inferior": sterilize all the NTs! :twisted: :lol: :wink:


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25 Jul 2005, 5:13 pm

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I just found out someone I know wants to cure autism. Says they cost to much money. :evil:



UGH!


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26 Jul 2005, 12:39 am

Stupidity costs a lot MORE money. Look at Bush for an example.


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26 Jul 2005, 12:42 am

excellent retort (sarcasm)

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Also, the Soviets in the end got their war industry working properly and so were able to produce vast armies of tanks to combat Hitler and push him back.


actually the US armed them through lend lease and actually sent them entire factories to be assembled quickly in siberia and central Russia


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26 Jul 2005, 3:24 am

Sophist wrote:
Stupidity costs a lot MORE money. Look at Bush for an example.

True. Very true indeed. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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26 Jul 2005, 12:00 pm

Thank yew. Thank yew.


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26 Jul 2005, 3:48 pm

Sophist wrote:
Thank yew. Thank yew.

Why should I thank a tree? Sure, it brought about the longbow, but what has it done for me recently? And do not say it saved my life as that was a willow!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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26 Jul 2005, 7:15 pm

Now he says it's a good idea because their to hard take care of. Says they can't en eat by themselves. Is it true? Still think it's insulting. :x



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26 Jul 2005, 7:16 pm

It's all oxygen, man. Oxygen. Oxygen and trees. Groovy.


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26 Jul 2005, 7:51 pm

Or maybe if there is a Reactionary strand truly mobilising ... this might be worth reading ...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ce&s=books

As the the debate seems to be about purging those with neurological and psychological differences, the comparison seems appropriate.