Dale Carnegie Course

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If anyone has any experience of this I would appreciate an account of it. I am doing it in a month or so and have been increasingly apprehensive since learning about it.

Nope, but I envy your opportunity to do it!

Thank you for your positive outlook.

It does look really good.

I am worried about the first session: "

Module 1
Build a Foundation for Success
Recall and Use Names

I am terrible at recalling (and therefore using) names

I cannot recall the names of people I know quite well. I also don't particularly remember faces, so I am often unsure of who people are until we have discussed the business at hand, and then I can tell by their role.

But it does look like very useful training, if it works.

I like the Horatio Alger approach myself.

I don't usually have a good initial, visceral reaction to this sort of thing ("making friends and influencing people")--but if it works for you, then I'm all for it.

I believe there will be times where you'll be irritated by it. But--almost anything one learns is irritating at first.

I wouldn't sign up for this sort of thing, unless I was forced to.

But...who knows, maybe it will benefit you. It might make you a more complete man.

You have the body the knowledge. This might provide you with a better way to convey it.

I love Dale Carnegie's techniques! You can get as much or more out of reading his books, but if work is paying for you to go to a seminar, great! They can be pretty expensive.

The techniques are aspie friendly. Carnegie broke down how superficial likeability works and found easy ways get to you like other people and to get them to like you. Here are a couple of examples:

-Find something you truly like about a person you don't like but have to be around and focus on that thing. It will make your time with that person much more pleasant. They will pick up on it and behave better. Let's say there's a woman you hate whose office is next to yours. She has pictures of a funny dog in her office. Ask her to tell you more about the dog. Build on that and try to ignore the stuff about her that you hate.

-To remember names, find something about the person that will trigger the name. Let's say a man's name is "Reggie" and he has red hair. You can imagine his name is "Reddie" and then you'll remember "Reggie"

It's all gold, just gold. Tell us how you like it afterwards!

Thanks for this enthusiasm. Work is paying for it and it is expensive.

I have the option of a three day all-day workshop or 8 week evening class. I am thinking the 8 week evening class will be more likely to allow learning and integration of specific techniques so I am tending toward that.

It seems to me like a huge opportunity to learn useful new things, and also like an example to expose all my areas of weakness and incompetence. I will put that down to useless and baseless anxiety and get on with it now.

I would take the Evening, too. At least you don't have to use up vacation time.

I think you're going into it with an open mind--which is excellent.

This is what I should try to do with all my endeavors.

Good luck with it!

It takes me time to process and internalize stuff, so I would do the 8-week also.

Back in the day I did lots of personal growth workshops. I got a lot out of them. Though, in retrospect, I was living in something of a fool's paradise; it never occurred to me there might be something odd about attending a 3-4 day workshop alone and without speaking to anyone else during it.

Vacation time isn't a consideration--I will be paid for it and it will be listed as professional training.
The main thing was balancing driving there and back 8 times or having three huge days with so much new information that I won't be able to retain it all.


Thanks!


That sounds so familiar! That was the biggest thing about the days when it first dawned on me that I might be autistic. I revisited all these events with the sudden understanding that there was something odd about the way I had gone about things--something odd about me.

You probably won't know the other people in the seminar or ever speak to them again. I went to the 3 day course. There were lots of different personality types there and it had a pretty comfortable tone.

Maybe you ought to take the 3 days, then.

That's what I would do, if I were in your situation.

i was well-aware of my social deficits while i was in med school. i took charm school and dale carnegie. the dale thing seemed to mostly focus on public speaking. the atmosphere was supportive. lots of practice giving short speeches. i liked the weekly format i took it in. the remembering names thing used a mnemonic trick of associating the names with a funny scenario.

Now there's a blast from the past for me! When I was as young as 11 and undiagnosed, I started obsessing over Dale Carnegie books from the library, because I knew I seemed "broken" socially even at that age, and these books had all this great advice about making life go smoother in one's dealings with others.

I was still too young and too lacking in confidence to magically change overnight back then, but the principles in those books never left me and I do believe that as the years went on I put some of those principles into practice and they're responsible for most of my ability to have integrated somewhat, and achieve a couple of things I had previously thought I couldn't do.

In the late '70s I took the 13 evening course called How to Win Friends and Influence People, instead of any of the more specific business courses offered by Dale Carnegie at the time. At the time I was returning to employment with a previous employer and it was a requisite to my hiring.

It was very interesting (I won't say transforming) and, for those there with more social skills, there was also lots of interpersonal networking.

I thoroughly enjoyed all the classes and used much of what I learned in business later. Even though I never won any of the small awards, at the very end I did win the Lincoln book, based more on effort than performance, I believe.

During this period my family always helped me prepare (where possible) for the next session and I believe they benefited as well. I'd recommend this for anyone.

Are you going to butter the lady up and try and sell her some Amway ? ?

I mean, inappropriate friendship overtures people sniff out and recognize from a mile away. And usually it's either sex, money, or religion. And yes, the person feels very uncomfortable.

I like the tactic of trying to find something you like about the person. But it's for you, so you'll feel a little better regarding the person. I would not add to this the aspect of trying to wrench conversation from the person.

And in general, I would try and do the tactics with a light touch. And it's a little like skillful play in poker. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

The other person does have a lot to do with it.