Is Job Hunting in the General Workforce Absurd?

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05 Sep 2015, 12:28 am

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IT/Marketing.

Nearly every company I have interviewed with said they expect you to do the job without training and adjustment phases.
This includes General Motors IT, and others for entry level and internships (Obviously I'm not going to name names).

This is the same sentiment that my fellow graduates and job seekers have told me when I've talked to them.

The job market is actually stagnate with nearly all the new jobs being created are temporary and low level jobs, mainly in Texas and few other states.

I also have 4 recruiters supposedly looking for me, though it's been a few months since I last heard anything (they always tell me there is nothing, unless I can do the work without training).
Even Benders (they recruiters for disabled people), said they couldn't find any work for me above the $30k/no benefits mark.
They asked me if I was willing to relocate to the East Cost to work $20k - $30k job with no benefits.

Whaaaaat? That's crazy, I thought Michigan had a better job market. I know people that went there to try to get jobs. >.> I'm a state below. Anyway, what sort of training are we talking about? Like, not knowing company-specific software? Or is it processes you'd have to take a class to learn?

I know the market is ridiculous, and in the company's favors, but golly.

Michigan like the other 43 states has a glut of workers and low job growth (including Ohio and Indiana).

Normally the company's software, processes, and other aspects of working there.
Nearly every job I interviewed for, expected me to know how to literally do the job fully on day one.


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11 Sep 2015, 4:49 pm

Looking for a job is very time consuming and you will most likely NOT be doing something that pertains to your interest. I work as an admin answering phones, and dealing with paperwork all day long, but it pays well and pays the bills. I have long ago discovered that jobs are absurd, but with that realization comes a great deal of power because the more you work, the more you save, and the more money you have, the more you can put it towards creating the life that you want to lead. I have turned saving money into one of my special interests and know that I can put it towards living a life of true freedom one day where I can do all the creative things that I have always wanted to do without answering to someone.

By the way, it always takes me at least five interviews before I land a job-so do not be discouraged. Also, your mother needs to realize that us on the AS are different in the way we develop in the world. I like to think of myself as a late-bloomer. I lived with my mother up until two months ago and I am 25. Although, I paid the rent, she still cooked my meals and handled everything else for me, so don't feel ashamed.

Keep trying and best of luck!



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16 Oct 2015, 1:44 pm

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Looking for a job is very time consuming and you will most likely NOT be doing something that pertains to your interest. I work as an admin answering phones, and dealing with paperwork all day long, but it pays well and pays the bills. I have long ago discovered that jobs are absurd, but with that realization comes a great deal of power because the more you work, the more you save, and the more money you have, the more you can put it towards creating the life that you want to lead. I have turned saving money into one of my special interests and know that I can put it towards living a life of true freedom one day where I can do all the creative things that I have always wanted to do without answering to someone.

By the way, it always takes me at least five interviews before I land a job-so do not be discouraged. Also, your mother needs to realize that us on the AS are different in the way we develop in the world. I like to think of myself as a late-bloomer. I lived with my mother up until two months ago and I am 25. Although, I paid the rent, she still cooked my meals and handled everything else for me, so don't feel ashamed.

Keep trying and best of luck!


Thanks for the feedback, Ruby. Yeah, you're right, working for a living is an absurd exercise, but you know what? Life itself is absurd (a conclusion that Camus and Nagel both arrived at, as well as the teacher in Ecclesiastes thousands of years before them), but the point is not to alleviate this absurdity, or even to understand it - the point of it all, I suppose, is just to survive, just like any other animal on Earth. You'll see neither sheep nor wolf asking "What's the meaning of life?" so why should we? What makes humans so special in that regard? Honestly, I think I would be deluding myself in thinking that I could be happy in any other way than just working a 40+ hour-per-week job, even for the rest of my life. It's as Camus said - "One must imagine Sisyphus happy." In spite of the absurdity of his ceaseless and fruitless toil in the underworld, that was Sisyphus' lot in life, so he should've been content with it, same as the rest of us.

Also, I tried - in some of my other posts on this thread - to clarify that I'm pretty sure now that I am NOT autistic. I thought I was for fifteen years of my life (therapists and teachers alike had me convinced of this), but really I just think I might be a sociopath (not to be confused with a psychopath) with some psychotic symptoms and issues with mood (e.g., depression and anxiety). I didn't have a very good childhood/adolescence (being raised by a single, young alcoholic mother may have had something to do with that), and I learned to fear people and be anxious of them from an early age. I stated in the other posts that I might be schizophrenic, but I think I've since ruled that out as well.


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16 Oct 2015, 2:20 pm

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Also, I tried - in some of my other posts on this thread - to clarify that I'm pretty sure now that I am NOT autistic. I thought I was for fifteen years of my life (therapists and teachers alike had me convinced of this), but really I just think I might be a sociopath (not to be confused with a psychopath) with some psychotic symptoms and issues with mood (e.g., depression and anxiety). I didn't have a very good childhood/adolescence (being raised by a single, young alcoholic mother may have had something to do with that), and I learned to fear people and be anxious of them from an early age. I stated in the other posts that I might be schizophrenic, but I think I've since ruled that out as well.


So, what, now you think you're better than the rest of us? [/joke]



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16 Oct 2015, 2:32 pm

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Also, I tried - in some of my other posts on this thread - to clarify that I'm pretty sure now that I am NOT autistic. I thought I was for fifteen years of my life (therapists and teachers alike had me convinced of this), but really I just think I might be a sociopath (not to be confused with a psychopath) with some psychotic symptoms and issues with mood (e.g., depression and anxiety). I didn't have a very good childhood/adolescence (being raised by a single, young alcoholic mother may have had something to do with that), and I learned to fear people and be anxious of them from an early age. I stated in the other posts that I might be schizophrenic, but I think I've since ruled that out as well.


So, what, now you think you're better than the rest of us? [/joke]


What do you mean, NOW I think I'm better than the rest of you? :P


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17 Oct 2015, 6:44 am

Jobsearching in my location is a waste of time, I have to rely on public transport which really narrows my options, I live next to a big city except the logic is big city = much more competition, rural area = little to no jobs, when I apply to a job I see that some 100,000 others have applied to it also, not good odds for me.



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17 Oct 2015, 8:18 pm

Filling out seventy job applications a week for not even an interview? That is absurd.

I'm finishing my studies soon and will be unemployed looking for work full time which terrifies me. I've only ever worked for my family business. I've applied for Christmas casual retail positions but never hear anything back - there's plenty of teenagers that they can hire and pay less.



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19 Oct 2015, 11:55 am

Well, to further drive home the excruciatingly painful truth that life is absurd, I just got fired from my temp job today. My agency called to let me know that I've been dropped (they didn't even sound the least bit sorry about it - the person who called actually sounded kind of cheerful, if you guys can believe that), and so now I'm gonna go in to the agency (as much as I'd hate to do that right now) and see what other options I have. Heh, you'd think that with how absurd life is, EVERYONE would have killed themselves by now - I guess that just goes to show how very few people there are who really are aware of this absurdity, and even the ones such as myself who are aware are too afraid to commit suicide. The only thing more powerful in this universe than the Absurd is fear, I suppose...


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20 Oct 2015, 4:32 pm

Why were you fired?



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20 Oct 2015, 11:55 pm

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Why were you fired?


That's the thing - I have NO idea. My temp agency isn't even exactly sure; the company for which I was working simply said I wasn't "picking it up enough." All I know is that I'm really frustrated about it, but at least I'll get my pay from last week this Friday, and the temp agency is helping me find another job.


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24 Oct 2015, 2:35 pm

Scorpius14 wrote:
Jobsearching in my location is a waste of time, I have to rely on public transport which really narrows my options, I live next to a big city except the logic is big city = much more competition, rural area = little to no jobs, when I apply to a job I see that some 100,000 others have applied to it also, not good odds for me.


And yet 85-95% of adults are gainfully employed at any given time!



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28 Nov 2015, 10:44 am

Well, it looks like I may be in luck this time - and I didn't even need a temp agency for this one! :D
I got offered a part-time job at Sherwin-Williams doing Warehousing inventory management, and I start no later than the second week of December! :mrgreen:
And, because they're looking for someone to fill a permanent position, if I do well enough it might turn out to be a long-term thing that'll last A LOT longer than just six weeks, which means that if I find another permanent part-time job I can move out and get started on my own! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I was so ecstatic when I got the e-mail, I nearly cried!
So I guess working a menial job in the general workforce isn't really all that absurd for us, it's just the process of getting one that can be a little absurd at times - there's gotta be a more efficient, viable way of actually getting the job for people like us (and people just in general).


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