Person vs Issue
Adamantium wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
I really don't understand how calling his argument, not himself, disingenuous, is a personal attack. I don't see how that is logical at all, and none of the explanations provided have made any sense to me logically. I am not attacking him personally, I am attacking his argument which is unfounded and not based in reality or evidence.
No.
Let's be perfectly clear about this: You attacked him.
You did not call his argument disingenuous, which would have been fine, but rather called him disingenuous (and other things besides) for using the argument.
Had you restricted your comment to the argument, there would have been no problem.
What you have done in making your case here is to downplay what you actually said and claim that the very clear, very personal nature of your posted words was more or less equivalent to an acceptable argument against an idea. But those are not equivalent. As has been stated clearly in the rules, attacking the argument is fine, attacking the person is not.
I thought I made my problem with his argument pretty clear, but apparently I didn't choose my wording carefully enough. I will try to do so in future.
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What transgender means is not so solidly x, y, z, or anything else that people cannot have their own opinions on what it means. People are free to think it is healthy mental state, and they are free to think it is mental illness, or they are free to think something else about it.
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btbnnyr wrote:
What transgender means is not so solidly x, y, z, or anything else that people cannot have their own opinions on what it means. People are free to think it is healthy mental state, and they are free to think it is mental illness, or they are free to think something else about it.
I am no longer posting in that thread. I don't really want to discuss this anymore: I will only say I feel embarrassed of this site for the way transgender people are talked about here, and I feel bad for all the transgender members of WP and wish people would be more inclusive and less discriminatory against them.
