What if I'm really a heartless psychopath?

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25 Oct 2020, 8:32 pm

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Psychopaths do not feel guilt nor do they tend to worry about being 'found out'.




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I'd say it IS a form of emotional dysregulation as much as it is another dimension of sensory sensitivity, processing and dysregulation.
It turned out that particular sensitivity are the weaknesses I've been trying to fight and wrestle my control against.


There were times in my life that I wished I *was* a psychopath.
Life would be easier than to have to deal with excessive emotions.



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25 Oct 2020, 8:45 pm

Pepe wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
Psychopaths do not feel guilt nor do they tend to worry about being 'found out'.




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I'd say it IS a form of emotional dysregulation as much as it is another dimension of sensory sensitivity, processing and dysregulation.
It turned out that particular sensitivity are the weaknesses I've been trying to fight and wrestle my control against.


There were times in my life that I wished I *was* a psychopath.
Life would be easier than to have to deal with excessive emotions.


Well I mean last time I tried to kill all my emotions I almost became a neo nazi...at least you have not done that. As far as I know.


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25 Oct 2020, 9:30 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
Psychopaths do not feel guilt nor do they tend to worry about being 'found out'.




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I'd say it IS a form of emotional dysregulation as much as it is another dimension of sensory sensitivity, processing and dysregulation.
It turned out that particular sensitivity are the weaknesses I've been trying to fight and wrestle my control against.


There were times in my life that I wished I *was* a psychopath.
Life would be easier than to have to deal with excessive emotions.


Well I mean last time I tried to kill all my emotions I almost became a neo nazi...at least you have not done that. As far as I know.


An *autistic* neo-Nazi. :lmao:



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25 Oct 2020, 9:43 pm

Pepe wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
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Psychopaths do not feel guilt nor do they tend to worry about being 'found out'.




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I'd say it IS a form of emotional dysregulation as much as it is another dimension of sensory sensitivity, processing and dysregulation.
It turned out that particular sensitivity are the weaknesses I've been trying to fight and wrestle my control against.


There were times in my life that I wished I *was* a psychopath.
Life would be easier than to have to deal with excessive emotions.


Well I mean last time I tried to kill all my emotions I almost became a neo nazi...at least you have not done that. As far as I know.


An *autistic* neo-Nazi. :lmao:


Yeah it was f*****g stupid...I had PTSD from a school shooting and i was left out by the other kids in dealing with it even though I was just as messed up about it as they were. So i wanted to kill all my feelings and came to the idea that becoming a neo nazi could help with that and from there a saw a bunch of neo nazi propaganda and almost got into it. Luckily I ended up rejecting it before I got too serious with it.

But yeah cannot deny that, that part of my life happened. Also at that time I did not know I had autism I didn't find that out till I was 23. At that point I was still wondering what it was that always seemed to make me the weird kid the bullies targeted.


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26 Oct 2020, 1:44 am

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You didn't delete your post about the sociopathy. It was on the first page:

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And...what if that is true should it really matter now? Even if you where just a I wont say psychopath but say you where a sociopath that is more common and you did learn those things....that can still be ok. I met a girl before who was a sociopath( at least she said that) but she was chill like yeah she just struggled with some emotion stuff but she for sure wasn't like a bad person. I have also heard sometimes people with more sociopathic tendencies actually make good paramedics because they don't get as freaked out by the peoples injuries so like they can just help the person without getting freaked out themselves.


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I feel emotions rather intensely (hence the outbursts I had), so I know that if I worked in a hospital dealing with ill people I would be crying a lot, and I could not do that job where you have to phone patient's relatives to tell them that their loved one has passed away. I just could not keep that 'tough' sort of tone, I would absolutely dread phoning them, their emotions would make me cry more than the patient who passed away (although that would make me cry too).

But I still worry in case those sites are right, as I used to be a nightmare to live with. My emotions were just too much and I couldn't control them.


I don't have trouble relating to other people's feelings, in fact it is one of my skills. I don't like people assuming that just because I'm on the spectrum it means I don't have the ability to relate to other people.


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26 Oct 2020, 2:38 am

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back when I was in my late teens/early 20s I was a nightmare to live with for my family. :cry: :oops: I used to have outbursts that upset the whole family, and these occured at random times, causing my family to walk on eggshells around me. My emotions were just out of control; I was angry, depressed and self-loathing. I had misophonia so bad that I'd get really agitated at certain sounds, and I ruled the household in some ways. :


My daughter has misophonia and has outbursts and I do have to walk on eggshells to not upset her. But....she is sweet and deep down very innocent. You also sound like somebody who is deep down a nice person Joe so please don't be hard on yourself and don't attribute psychopathy to your behaviour just because there's a few random stories about Aspie girls going wild.



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26 Oct 2020, 3:01 am

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I don't have trouble relating to other people's feelings, in fact it is one of my skills. I don't like people assuming that just because I'm on the spectrum it means I don't have the ability to relate to other people.


To me others are just like they are. The may look like regarding their feelings but there is nothing more to me and their feelings aren't my own concern nor do they cause me any related feelings as well. That doesn't make me a heartless psychopath. Psychopaths enjoy the bad feelings of other and I don't and I even dislike if others are suffering despite that it doesn't cause me related feelings. But I'm sometimes afraid of becoming a lot harder towards other people than I am because that wouldn't make me a better human. But do I have to be one?


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26 Oct 2020, 4:13 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
Psychopaths do not feel guilt nor do they tend to worry about being 'found out'.




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I'd say it IS a form of emotional dysregulation as much as it is another dimension of sensory sensitivity, processing and dysregulation.
It turned out that particular sensitivity are the weaknesses I've been trying to fight and wrestle my control against.


There were times in my life that I wished I *was* a psychopath.
Life would be easier than to have to deal with excessive emotions.


Well I mean last time I tried to kill all my emotions I almost became a neo nazi...at least you have not done that. As far as I know.

Hmmm...
I was sure hating and being frustrated about emotions (of self and others, with fantasies of what 'utopia', 'power', 'what humans should be' is) and actually not having while remain functioning (on top of not caring about it, no fantasies only adapt) it are two very different things.



These 'violent female aspies' are more than likely not psychopaths.
More like, experience tells me, walking intolerant messball of stress and frustration more comparable to BPD and ADD rolled in one.

The only time I had the real power to 'redeem' myself?
It was when I had no EF issues.
My emotions and senses then, no longer an inconvenience, no longer being at it's mercy.

Too bad it lasts only for hours? Days?
A fluke in my sleep, but it brought out the me behind the dysfunction.
That's when I quit wishing having less emotions, and start wishing for a convenient body.



To sum up;
The reason why worrying about the heartless stereotype stigma doesn't resonate with me;

-Because it's unture. I even wish to be heartless and 'let me be evil'.

-People around me interprets the idea of empathy and humanity differently.
Guys from the west are weird -- how did this mess created?
With the fascination about psychopathy and the generalized interpretation empathy and autism.

But then the widespread fear based horror story came there, the doctor who compared autism and psychopathy came from there, a doctor who widely described autistics as inhuman and ought to train them like a dog came from there...

It's been decades long, the memory left unresolved still AND it was being perpetuated.

But then the existence of autism label came from there, psychology and psychiatry came from there.
Who am I to judge? :lol:

Sorry I start rambling. :lol:
... I'm ending this story of mine here and out.


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29 Oct 2020, 3:47 am

Joe90 wrote:
I'm just worried that I'm still capable of such behaviour but I am just shielded from it by taking Sertraline. I'm still very expressive but not via outbursts. Since I've been taking Sertraline my hyperactivity has actually turned into overexcitement.

Does the Sertraline have any unpleasant side-effects?

(If not, then you are very lucky to have found a medication that works well for you.)


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29 Oct 2020, 6:40 am

It's past 4 a.m. in California...I picked- up my husband at his place of employment around 2 a.m...He works the night shift from 6 p.m. to 2 a.m....I don't sleep much, so i came here and found this thread...It really saddens me :cry: :cry: :cry: ...To think that i could have been one of those NT wives, winning about her Aspie husband, comparing him to a psychopath...OMG!! !...How damaging can those internet sites be!! !...I refuse to access these, not even out of curiosity...I happen to have a Bachelor's in Legal Studies, and worked in the legal profession for appx. one decade...Though i admit, i worked with civil--not criminal--matters...My major did require me to study criminal profiling...And NO!! !...Rest assured that you are NOT a psychopath!! !...The mere fact that you feel bad about your past behavior within your family setting is proof that you are not a psychopath...Psychopaths have no conscience, no remorse whatsoever...Of course, i am referring to hard-core criminals...(But even they can be redeemed)...You sound more like an empath...I am glad sertraline has helped you cope better with your negative emotions...Sending you a prolonged virtual hug :wink: ...(NT, here)... :heart: :heart: :heart: