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10 Nov 2020, 3:50 pm

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At least we now know who has imbibed of Trump's kool-aid...


Oh don't be passive aggressive coy, name names and elaborate on your analogy.



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10 Nov 2020, 3:51 pm

What's that thing with nuclear family? Why community childrearing is viewed as against fundamental values?


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10 Nov 2020, 5:09 pm

It seems the obvious appears to looking like the BLM protesting had nothing directly to do with the election , as I understand they were protesting civil rights abuses . And someone confused the issues into it being about
Maga being being the source of the civil rights abuse and the media hyped it up . Now we got Biden ......
All these people expect improvements from the establishment .. there is a reason it it called the establishment.
Cause it IS established . The trick is , they will be speeches but no changes , then everyone will get bored about it and everything will calm down , and things will be just as they have . Having only history to make the point here.
All I can do is hope I am wrong .


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10 Nov 2020, 7:16 pm

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I have been on an anti Trumper tirade this week time for an anti "woke" detour.

In a lot of revolutionary movements, there is the peaceful protest wing of people who are mostly legitimately anti-violent. All political movements need anti-violent rhetoric to gain the support or at least some sympathy from the comfortable. "Woke" is not a reform movement it is a revolutionary one because it seeks to change the fundamental understanding of America and its history and seeks to get rid of American institutions such as the nuclear family and the police and government and build replacements.

Wanting to build replacements for the nuclear family is not radical. Even David Brooks, a moderate conservative-leaning writer, has written The Nuclear Family Was a Mistake ("The family structure we’ve held up as the cultural ideal for the past half century has been a catastrophe for many. It’s time to figure out better ways to live together."), The Atlantic, March 2020.

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"Mostly peaceful protests" is both literally true and misleading. I have not read too many BLM and Antifa chapter heads denouncing their violent wings because their violent wings are not a bug they are a feature.

Black Lives Matter 757 speaks out against riots, looting. Yes it would be desirable if the main BLM organization as a whole were to take a stronger stand against looting; I was not able to find a statement about it on the main BLM website. However, I see no reason to believe that it's a "feature," "not a bug." Looting clearly does not help their cause in any way.

Antifa is not an organization with "chapters"; it's a loose network.

Anyhow, when poking around on the main BLM website, I found Understanding Conflict, a manual on conflict resolution within their own organization. It includes some ideas that may be useful within the autistic community too.


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10 Nov 2020, 9:36 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
I have been on an anti Trumper tirade this week time for an anti "woke" detour.

In a lot of revolutionary movements, there is the peaceful protest wing of people who are mostly legitimately anti-violent. All political movements need anti-violent rhetoric to gain the support or at least some sympathy from the comfortable. "Woke" is not a reform movement it is a revolutionary one because it seeks to change the fundamental understanding of America and its history and seeks to get rid of American institutions such as the nuclear family and the police and government and build replacements.

Wanting to build replacements for the nuclear family is not radical. Even David Brooks, a moderate conservative-leaning writer, has written The Nuclear Family Was a Mistake ("The family structure we’ve held up as the cultural ideal for the past half century has been a catastrophe for many. It’s time to figure out better ways to live together."), The Atlantic, March 2020.

Because one conservative writer agrees with it or the idea might be a good one does not make it not revolutionary. What makes it revolutionary is changing or wanting to change a number of ideas considered sacrosanct. If tomorrow the National Review and Commentary agreed the nuclear family has got to go that would mean that revolutionary idea is taking hold not that it was not revolutionary.
ASPartOfMe wrote:
"Mostly peaceful protests" is both literally true and misleading. I have not read too many BLM and Antifa chapter heads denouncing their violent wings because their violent wings are not a bug they are a feature.
Mona Pereth wrote:
Black Lives Matter 757 speaks out against riots, looting. Yes it would be desirable if the main BLM organization as a whole were to take a stronger stand against looting; I was not able to find a statement about it on the main BLM website. However, I see no reason to believe that it's a "feature," "not a bug." Looting clearly does not help their cause in any way.

Antifa is not an organization with "chapters"; it's a loose network.

Anyhow, when poking around on the main BLM website, I found Understanding Conflict, a manual on conflict resolution within their own organization. It includes some ideas that may be useful within the autistic community too.

Most but not all revolutionary movements have both peaceful and violent elements loosely kind of a good cop bad cop thing (pun intended). IMHO that is what BLM is doing. Antifa is mostly the "bad cop"


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11 Nov 2020, 4:01 am

I still don't get why nuclear family is considered so important but not to go offtopic here, I started another discussion there: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=392160&p=8650602#p8650602


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