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02 Feb 2022, 2:43 am

Deepthought 7 wrote:
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I remember reading a part about not gloating about ones faith or preaching excessively.

Ecclesiastes 7:15. In this meaningless life of mine I have seen both these: a righteous man perishing in his righteousness, and a wicked man living long in his wickedness. 16. Do not be over-righteous, nor be over-wise ~ why destroy yourself? possibly?


I agree with this notion. Being above humanity is akin to not living as a human and thus, not being judged by human standards.

One has to be a human to understand the human condition.


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02 Feb 2022, 9:09 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
One has to be a human to understand the human condition.
I am human, and I have been homeless.  I understand both conditions (and many more besides).



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02 Feb 2022, 9:24 am

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Ecclesiastes 7:15. In this meaningless life of mine I have seen both these: a righteous man perishing in his righteousness, and a wicked man living long in his wickedness. 16. Do not be over-righteous, nor be over-wise ~ why destroy yourself? possibly?
Doubtful.  More likely, one of these was mis-translated and/or taken out of context . . .

Psalm 22:17 -- All my bones are on display; people stare and gloat over me.

Psalm 30:1 -- I will exalt you, Lord, for you lifted me out of the depths and did not let my enemies gloat over me.

Psalm 35:19 -- Do not let those gloat over me who are my enemies without cause; do not let those who hate me without reason maliciously wink the eye.

Psalm 35:24 -- Vindicate me in your righteousness, Lord my God; do not let them gloat over me.

Psalm 35:26 -- May all who gloat over my distress be put to shame and confusion; may all who exalt themselves over me be clothed with shame and disgrace.

Psalm 38:16 -- For I said, "Do not let them gloat or exalt themselves over me when my feet slip."

Psalm 59:10 -- my God on whom I can rely. God will go before me and will let me gloat over those who slander me.

Proverbs 17:5 -- Whoever mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished.

Proverbs 24:17 -- Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice,

Isaiah 14:8 -- Even the junipers and the cedars of Lebanon gloat over you and say, "Now that you have been laid low, no one comes to cut us down."

Lamentations 2:17 -- The Lord has done what he planned; he has fulfilled his word, which he decreed long ago. He has overthrown you without pity, he has let the enemy gloat over you, he has exalted the horn of your foes.

Obadiah 1:12 -- You should not gloat over your brother in the day of his misfortune, nor rejoice over the people of Judah in the day of their destruction, nor boast so much in the day of their trouble.

Obadiah 1:13 -- You should not march through the gates of my people in the day of their disaster, nor gloat over them in their calamity in the day of their disaster, nor seize their wealth in the day of their disaster.

Micah 4:11 -- But now many nations are gathered against you. They say, "Let her be defiled, let our eyes gloat over Zion!"

Micah 7:8 -- Do not gloat over me, my enemy! Though I have fallen, I will rise. Though I sit in darkness, the Lord will be my light.

Habakkuk 3:14 -- With his own spear you pierced his head when his warriors stormed out to scatter us, gloating as though about to devour the wretched who were in hiding.

Revelation 11:10 -- The inhabitants of the Earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the Earth.

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So you see, the Bible does not expressly state "Thou Shalt Not Gloat", but only that those who gloat unrighteously will be punished.  Everything else is a mixed bag.



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02 Feb 2022, 11:01 am



Yawn, the Older Bible(s) or Any Other
Book of Poems Has Limitless Potential

Interpretations, Just Like

Any Human

Being;

Nature

Of This Whole
Beast of Reality;

It JUST Helps to be Kind, Full Stop And Go...

"They Will Know We Are Christians By Our Love" or 'WE' WILL NOT BE CHRISTIANS
AT ALL, REFERENCING PAUL'S 'Letter to the Corinthians' AS PROVIDED BELOW IN HIS

OTHER SPLIT False/Truth

FOR REAL:

When He's Not
'Ragging on the
Sinners' at 'Church'...

"First Corinthians 12:31-13:13
31 Set your mind on the higher gifts. And now I am going to put before you the best way of all.

1 Though I command languages both human and angelic -- if I speak without love, I am no more than a gong booming or a cymbal clashing.

2 And though I have the power of prophecy, to penetrate all mysteries and knowledge, and though I have all the faith necessary to move mountains -- if I am without love, I am nothing.

3 Though I should give away to the poor all that I possess, and even give up my body to be burned -- if I am without love, it will do me no good whatever.

4 Love is always patient and kind; love is never jealous; love is not boastful or conceited,

5 it is never rude and never seeks its own advantage, it does not take offence or store up grievances.

6 Love does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but finds its joy in the truth.

7 It is always ready to make allowances, to trust, to hope and to endure whatever comes.

8 Love never comes to an end. But if there are prophecies, they will be done away with; if tongues, they will fall silent; and if knowledge, it will be done away with.

9 For we know only imperfectly, and we prophesy imperfectly;

10 but once perfection comes, all imperfect things will be done away with.

11 When I was a child, I used to talk like a child, and see things as a child does, and think like a child; but now that I have become an adult, I have finished with all childish ways.

12 Now we see only reflections in a mirror, mere riddles, but then we shall be seeing face to face. Now I can know only imperfectly; but then I shall know just as fully as I am myself known.

13 As it is, these remain: faith, hope and love, the three of them; and the greatest of them is love."

If 'Political Minded
Christians' Practiced
These More Kind Words
of Paul as Expressed in

Free Verse Poetry FOR REAL

AND Really Put Love FIRST AND LAST

AS A REAL PHILOSOPHY OF LIFE, WE WOULD
BUILD HOMES FOR ALL THE HOMELESS AND

FEED AND

CLOTHE THEM

COLLECTING EVERYONE'S

TAX MONEY TO DO IT BY RULE OF LAW OF LOVE

MUTUALLY AGREED UPON IN A DEMOCRACY OF LOVE NOW.

PERIOD.

REFRAIN:

"THEY WILL KNOW 'WE'
ARE Christians By Our Love"

Or at Least this one particular

Version of Christianity That
Does Contradict Itself as Lie

In Other Verses of Paul and
Matthew too Falling As Lies As Kindness For All

At Least As Written again in These Quoted Verses
By Dance and Song Of Love For Whoever The Scribe Then,
or Ghost Author, Or So-Called 'Saul the Paul' or Not Wrote them...

The Fact that The Same So-Called Paul Dude, Cr88Ped All Over Sinners
Conversely in Another Verse in the Book Among So Many Other Contradicting
Verses in the Book is Every Indication of Just How Open Source the Book Still Is...

i Have no Problem with

That; This is the 'Human

Condition;' By Very Nature

It Often

Contradicts
Its So-Called Nature
of Love; if the Old Bible(s)

Didn't

Lie, IT (They) Wouldn't
Be Telling the 'Trump Truth'...

Same Old Ground Hog Day Same Old Ground Hog Day...

Meh, Where i Live
in Florida Within
It's Always Spring
As That's the Way i Master the All in All for Real Within Now

Just as promised by A More 'Real Jesus' in Scriptures Censored....

Or As What Survived Through All the Edits in Luke 17:21, For Whatever

Scribe

Might
Have Changed
What the Original

Roman Empire Wanted

For Control over Minions then
too; Homeless of Mastering the
All in All Within Individually Free...

Inhaling Peace Exhaling LoVE iN JoY oF LiGHT
Giving, Sharing, Caring, Healing, Freely Without Restraint

In Other Words,

Putting Love

Into Breath of Action
While Inhaling Peace For Real
Naked, Enough, Whole, Complete;

True, New Testaments Never End as
Long as Creativity of God In Holy And
Sacred Spirit For Real Continues to Inhale

Peace And Exhale LoVE iN

Creativity

Now

God's
Breath
For Real

All Real Nature

Of Humanity's Nature of Creativity Within...

For Those Who Only Quote 'Old Verses,' Dust
They Have Already Become Again; Just Another

'Facebook

Status

Share' For Most;

Someone Else's Play
On Words And Dance of Life Singing
Still Springing Within for Real Year 'Round Eternally Now...

Indeed, There Are Many Ways to Be Homeless in This Life
Of Living Creativity or Living Death Where Every Day Becomes

"Aghogday"

"Another Groundhog
Day" In Bill Murray Movies
of Stale And Lifeless Life Still;

Been There Done it; Aghogday,

Is Only A Label Now And Not A Living Dead Man...

Homeless With No Inhale of Peace Exhale of Love
As Years Before Eternally In HeLL ON EartH Too... Yep,
"Both
Places"

And So Many
More Exist

Among Us

And Within Us
For Real NoW Eternally Differently...



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