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14 Jun 2023, 7:45 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
Prison time should be a good deterrent, rather than merely kicking people off internet platforms.
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No, people should not be sent to prison just for saying something offensive.

Kicking people off of Internet platforms, fine. No one has an inalienable right to be on any specific platform. Criminal penalties are another matter, however.


Agree, plus it will just make them a martyr and be bad optics for trans. And also I am against the prison system in general, I considered to be a cop as a career but one of the reasons I didn't is because I don't like the prison system.

As for Youtube, I still do not trust them at all. For instance when I am on a Private browser without cookies, Youtube keeps recommending and promoting transphobic videos despite that I have never searched for trans related things on youtube.



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14 Jun 2023, 12:45 pm

Lecia_Wynter wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Prison time should be a good deterrent, rather than merely kicking people off internet platforms.
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No, people should not be sent to prison just for saying something offensive.

Kicking people off of Internet platforms, fine. No one has an inalienable right to be on any specific platform. Criminal penalties are another matter, however.


Agree, plus it will just make them a martyr and be bad optics for trans. And also I am against the prison system in general, I considered to be a cop as a career but one of the reasons I didn't is because I don't like the prison system.

As for Youtube, I still do not trust them at all. For instance when I am on a Private browser without cookies, Youtube keeps recommending and promoting transphobic videos despite that I have never searched for trans related things on youtube.

Grey area. Depends what they say and what the effect of it is. Same goes for any communication on any media channel.

Example: trumplestiltskin trolled the world on troth sensial and mainstream TV media with his incitements to violence calling for morons to "protest," on January 6th. He may very well face real world repercussions for that.

If people are using internet platforms for hate speech and calls to action for violent crimes, I can see them potentially being jailed for it. Just because it's online doesn't mean it doesn't have real world offline implications. There isn't some free for all where you can be the biggest a-hole in the world, cause real world harm to people, and merely suffer a Facebook ban.


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14 Jun 2023, 1:23 pm

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Punishment over words leaves violence as the only option remaining though.

What if a lesbian doesn't want to date a trans woman because the "Y" chromosome is still in every cell and she mentions this? Should she be punished? Possibly even imprisoned? There have been instances of lesbians being banned from lesbian dating sites for this very reason.

Everyone has their own idea of what racism is too. Some of it well grounded and some of it less so.


Are you suggesting that misgendering laws will force people to date people they'd rather not because that seems very unrealistic, based on places that treat misgendering as problematic.

Also, are you suggesting that transphobic violence would be justified in such a scenario?


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14 Jun 2023, 1:28 pm

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We should know whom we are talking about.  I sure did not, thus the following profile . . .
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Candace Amber Owens Farmer (née Owens; born April 29, 1989) is an American conservative author, talk show host, political commentator, producer, and activist.  Owens has been recognized for her pro-Trump activism as a Black woman and her criticism of Black Lives Matter and the Democratic Party despite being initially critical of the former president of the United States Donald Trump and the Republican Party.  She worked for the conservative advocacy group Turning Point USA between 2017 and 2019 as its communications director.  In 2021, she joined The Daily Wire, where she hosts Candace, a political talk show.

On several occasions, Owens has claimed that the effects of white supremacy and white nationalism are exaggerated, especially when compared to other issues facing black Americans.  She has expressed anti-lockdown views and promoted misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines during the COVID-19 pandemic.  Owens has been criticized for promoting conspiracy theories, mostly through her social media profiles and television and media appearances.
. . . describing what seems to be another right-wing nutjob.

She is. She's vile. The right wing fringe loves her for being a black woman that claims systemic racism doesn't exist in the USA blah blah blah anti trans pro corporate profits pro conservative republican anti woke yadda yadda.


Well, it is true that many conservatives latch on to any black person who says a few things they want to hear, which is why Candance Owens is promoted by Conservatism Inc.

But her pronouncements on the topic at hand are just basic common sense.

It's amazing how even milquetoast conservatives are too triggering for most people on this forum.



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14 Jun 2023, 1:33 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
We need a law that criminalizes misgendering, deadnaming, and even verses from the Bible and Quran that condemn homosexuality.

This would be contrary to the First Amendment.

Tim_Tex wrote:
Prison time should be a good deterrent, rather than merely kicking people off internet platforms.

No, people should not be sent to prison just for saying something offensive.


Indeed. I personally find Tim_Tex's pronouncements on this thread to be beyond parody.
I do hope he continues though, since it helps to discredit the left-liberal side in all this

@Tim_Tex, by the way, I'd love to know how it was that you once considered yourself a Republican (even allowing for the fact that US Republicans are just liberals 10 or 15 years late). I mean, did you just toss a coin for it or something?



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14 Jun 2023, 1:36 pm

slam_thunderhide wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
We should know whom we are talking about.  I sure did not, thus the following profile . . .
Wikipedia wrote:
Candace Amber Owens Farmer (née Owens; born April 29, 1989) is an American conservative author, talk show host, political commentator, producer, and activist.  Owens has been recognized for her pro-Trump activism as a Black woman and her criticism of Black Lives Matter and the Democratic Party despite being initially critical of the former president of the United States Donald Trump and the Republican Party.  She worked for the conservative advocacy group Turning Point USA between 2017 and 2019 as its communications director.  In 2021, she joined The Daily Wire, where she hosts Candace, a political talk show.

On several occasions, Owens has claimed that the effects of white supremacy and white nationalism are exaggerated, especially when compared to other issues facing black Americans.  She has expressed anti-lockdown views and promoted misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines during the COVID-19 pandemic.  Owens has been criticized for promoting conspiracy theories, mostly through her social media profiles and television and media appearances.
. . . describing what seems to be another right-wing nutjob.

She is. She's vile. The right wing fringe loves her for being a black woman that claims systemic racism doesn't exist in the USA blah blah blah anti trans pro corporate profits pro conservative republican anti woke yadda yadda.


Well, it is true that many conservatives latch on to any black person who says a few things they want to hear, which is why Candance Owens is promoted by Conservatism Inc.

But her pronouncements on the topic at hand are just basic common sense.

It's amazing how even milquetoast conservatives are too triggering for most people on this forum.

Aaah, yes.. because her bigoted BS about trans people has everything to do with "basic common sense." :roll:


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14 Jun 2023, 2:24 pm

slam_thunderhide wrote:
It's amazing how even milquetoast conservatives are too triggering for most people on this forum.


It's amazing how conservatives have to pretend that disagreeing with them has to be the result of being triggered.

Meanwhile they also meltdown every time they're reminded their views aren't actually common sense, or even very common.


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14 Jun 2023, 4:26 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
slam_thunderhide wrote:
It's amazing how even milquetoast conservatives are too triggering for most people on this forum.


It's amazing how conservatives have to pretend that disagreeing with them has to be the result of being triggered.

Meanwhile they also meltdown every time they're reminded their views aren't actually common sense, or even very common.


That's great, but if that is directed at me I'll have you know I'm not a conservative.

Since all conservatives do is 'conserve' yesterday's lib-left victories while sitting round having Bill Buckley style debates with lib-leftists who hate them, then I want no part of that.



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14 Jun 2023, 4:33 pm

I'm convinced that politics for a large number of lib-left types in here is nothing more than a playground revenge fantasy, where...

- The normal, healthy majority that uphold the society that the lib-leftists ungratefully feed off = the playground bullies
- Whoever the media designate as a marginalized group this week = 'my gang'
- Government & Big Tech = The teachers whose power must be directed at punishing the 'bullies' while assuring me and my gang that we're so much smarter and more sensitive than those mean jocks.



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14 Jun 2023, 4:34 pm

slam_thunderhide wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
slam_thunderhide wrote:
It's amazing how even milquetoast conservatives are too triggering for most people on this forum.


It's amazing how conservatives have to pretend that disagreeing with them has to be the result of being triggered.

Meanwhile they also meltdown every time they're reminded their views aren't actually common sense, or even very common.


That's great, but if that is directed at me I'll have you know I'm not a conservative.

Since all conservatives do is 'conserve' yesterday's lib-left victories while sitting round having Bill Buckley style debates with lib-leftists who hate them, then I want no part of that.


Disagreeing with people, even very strongly, doesn't oblige one to hate those people. One can disagree with toxic or bigoted views another holds without believing that person to be an irredeemable monster.

It seems like you're projecting considering that no one has referred to you as filth and yet you feel the need to smear those who disagree with you as filth. Who would want to engage politely with someone who dismisses them out of hand as filth?

Out of curiosity, how would you characterize your political views?


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