Near Sightedness as a Possible Contributing Cause to AS

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16 Sep 2005, 3:43 am

Being near-sighted in one eye and long-sighted in the other, I wish they would cancel each other out and give me normal vision.
They happen to be exactly the same distance frome normal vision, ie: +2 left eye, -2 right eye.
Don't know how the autism theory would work with this. :roll:



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16 Sep 2005, 5:03 am

wow had no idea a person can be both near- and long-sighted.


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16 Sep 2005, 6:17 am

I developed late onset myopia at age 22 and then found it was inherited from my dad's side of the family. I also have astigmatism, which is worse in one eye. Wearing glasses doesn't bother me but what caused a progressive loss in self-esteem from about 18 onwards was my lack of street-wisdom, which led to bullying and people taking advantage.

Lorna Wing, an authority on autism, has written that it is common for teenagers and young adults (even with the high functioning forms of autism) to face many difficulties in striking out on their own.


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16 Sep 2005, 6:52 am

i inherited my near-sightedness from my dad too.


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16 Sep 2005, 7:13 am

I think the autism mainly came down from his side of the family too.


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16 Sep 2005, 7:33 am

SquanderedPotential wrote:
wow had no idea a person can be both near- and long-sighted.

Heh, I'm just weird, I've never met anybody else with it either.



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16 Sep 2005, 7:39 am

well it seems to be pretty darn rare but it does make sense... if my eyes can be slightly different in vision (the other is -5.50 and the other -5.25 or something) then sure why can't the other eye go even on the plus side?

[tangent]heh, this reminds me of people with different colored eyes, i actually know someone like that. i really find it fascinating but i guess it can get a little annoying if every person you meet comments on it, like you hadn't heard it all before... :P but still, i'm so jealous.[/tangent]

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16 Sep 2005, 8:45 am

I'm just saying, do you know how many near-sighted individuals there are out there who aren't autistic???

If the two had any correlation, there'd be a lot more of us and a lot less NAs with vision problems.


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16 Sep 2005, 11:32 am

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If the two had any correlation, there'd be a lot more of us and a lot less NAs with vision problems.


Has there been any large study into it to deytermine whether there is any correlation? I dont think anyone is suggesting it causes it, just that it can make the problem worse.



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16 Sep 2005, 1:29 pm

eamonn wrote:
Sophist wrote:


If the two had any correlation, there'd be a lot more of us and a lot less NAs with vision problems.


Has there been any large study into it to deytermine whether there is any correlation? I dont think anyone is suggesting it causes it, just that it can make the problem worse.


Not that I've ever heard of. But then again, I don't have access to all journals. It can make a hard time for anyone though. Not just autties.

And as for causing or being one of the causes for Complex Autism, I have heard nothing of that sort either.


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16 Sep 2005, 5:18 pm

Sophist wrote:
If you wear glasses or contacts which correct the near-sightedness, there should be no problem.

I didn't particularly like wearing glasses as a kid and never wore them outside school. I probably developed a more auditory-verbal perceptive style because of this.

And the correlation doesn't have to go both ways. People with Asperger's are more likely to have eye-sight problems; people with eye-sight problems aren't more likely to be autistic.



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16 Sep 2005, 6:23 pm

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And the correlation doesn't have to go both ways. People with Asperger's are more likely to have eye-sight problems; people with eye-sight problems aren't more likely to be autistic.


excellent point!


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16 Sep 2005, 7:25 pm

Why dont we stay up during the night and wear nightvision goggles? :idea: Then we will see the Nt's better than they can see us and will be a force to be reckoned with. :) Haha NT now i can watch YOU at my leisure and pull funny faces of disaproval or mock. Who is the freak now huh?



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16 Sep 2005, 7:59 pm

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Why dont we stay up during the night and wear nightvision goggles? :idea: Then we will see the Nt's better than they can see us and will be a force to be reckoned with. :) Haha NT now i can watch YOU at my leisure and pull funny faces of disaproval or mock. Who is the freak now huh?


lmao :lol:


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24 Sep 2005, 6:34 am

Sophist wrote:
Blindness can cause autistic-like symtoms. Not Autism.


I think that may have to do with sensory deprivation, since blind people are literally deprived of a sense.

from: http://www.autism.org/temple/visual.html

Temple Grandin wrote:
Sensory Deprivation Symptoms
The symptoms of sensory deprivation in animals and many autistic symptoms are similar. Animals confined to a barren environment are excitable and engage in stereotypies, self-injury, hyperactivity, and disturbed social relations (Grandin 1989b; Mason 1960; Harlow and Zimmerman 1959). An animal in a barren environment engages in stereotypies in an attempt to stimulate itself.

Why would a leopard in a concrete cell at the zoo and autism have similarities? From my own experience, I would like to suggest a possible answer. Auditory and tactile input often overwhelmed me. Loud noise hurt my ears. When noise and sensory over stimulation became too intense, I was able to shut off my hearing and retreat into my own world. Possibly the autistic child creates his or her own self-imposed sensory deprivation.

In pulling away, I may not have received stimulation that was required for normal development. Possibly there are secondary central nervous system abnormalities that happen as a result of the autistic child's avoidance of input. The initial sensory processing abnormalities that the child is born with cause the initial avoidance. Autopsy studies indicate that cerebellar abnormalities occur before birth (Bauman 1991, Bauman and Kemper 1994). However, the limbic system which also has abnormalities is not mature until the child is two years old. The possibility of secondary damage to the central nervous system may explain why young children in early intervention education programs have a better prognosis than children who do not receive special treatment.

Animal and human studies show that restriction of sensory input causes the central nervous system to become overly sensitive to stimulation. The effects of early sensory restriction are often long lasting. Placement of a small cup on a person's forearm for one week to block tactile sensations will cause the corresponding area on the opposite arm to become more sensitive (Aftanas and Zubeck 1964). Puppies reared in barren kennels become hyperexcitable, and their brain waves (EEG) still showed signs of over arousal six months after removal from the kennel (Melzack and Burns 1965). The brain waves of autistic children also show signs of high arousal (Hutt et al. 1965). Trimming the whiskers on baby rats will cause the parts of the brain that receive input from the whiskers to become oversensitive (Simon and Land 1987). This abnormality is relatively permanent. The brain areas were still abnormal after the whiskers had grown back.

Perhaps it would be beneficial if autistic babies were gently stroked and "tamed" when they stiffen and pull away. I often wonder if I had received more tactile stimulation as a child, if I would have been less "nervous" as an adult. Handling baby rats produces calmer adults which are more willing to explore a maze (Denenberg et al. 1962; Ehrlich 1959). Tactile stimulation is vital for babies and aids in their development.


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