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17 Jun 2024, 6:57 am

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Saying its "either Creation of evolution" is a false dichotomy. It could have been a combination of both. Or neither.


That's the trick. Creationists can't find evidence that the world was created in days. So they set it up to be a false dichotomy. Either or. Evolution or creation.

Then they think that by poking holes in evolution, in accordance with their false dichotomy, they've proven creation.

They have to rely on deceptive tricks like this because they cannot find any physical evidence of God creating the world in a week with enough time left over to take Saturday off.


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17 Jun 2024, 7:45 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Saying its "either Creation of evolution" is a false dichotomy. It could have been a combination of both. Or neither.


That's the trick. Creationists can't find evidence that the world was created in days. So they set it up to be a false dichotomy. Either or. Evolution or creation.

Then they think that by poking holes in evolution, in accordance with their false dichotomy, they've proven creation.

They have to rely on deceptive tricks like this because they cannot find any physical evidence of God creating the world in a week with enough time left over to take Saturday off.


Exactly.



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17 Jun 2024, 10:11 am

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It seems it bit like nonsense to me. How can life just appear from nowhere? How can the Earth form without a creator? It is like saying a house can just put itself together without any builders. Creation makes a lot more sense.


I love evolution me

It blows my mind away when I think about the thousands of years of survival and evolution that has gone into making little old me


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18 Jun 2024, 10:50 am

babybird wrote:
TheNet wrote:
It seems it bit like nonsense to me. How can life just appear from nowhere? How can the Earth form without a creator? It is like saying a house can just put itself together without any builders. Creation makes a lot more sense.


I love evolution me

It blows my mind away when I think about the thousands of years of survival and evolution that has gone into making little old me


Millions, actually. babybird is in the left upper corner:

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18 Jun 2024, 11:01 am

Nice shaped skull that


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18 Jun 2024, 1:23 pm

Yes...weve all been forged by millions of generations of cruel natural selection...hammering us and honing us on the anvil's edge like handmade iron tools and weapons.



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18 Jun 2024, 2:21 pm

Yeah that's the beauty of it all imo


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18 Jun 2024, 4:03 pm

I don't find evolution difficult to accept. I know some people do.

What I do find a little more hard to accept is natural selection. The whole random mutations thing just seems too scattershot to me. Perhaps it's just the timescales involved that make it difficult to grasp.

I'm not saying there's an intelligence guiding it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were more to it than random mutations. I can't quite describe what I mean here.


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18 Jun 2024, 5:01 pm

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I don't find evolution difficult to accept. I know some people do.

What I do find a little more hard to accept is natural selection. The whole random mutations thing just seems too scattershot to me. Perhaps it's just the timescales involved that make it difficult to grasp.

I'm not saying there's an intelligence guiding it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were more to it than random mutations. I can't quite describe what I mean here.


I follow what you're saying. As I've already stated, I believe in a divinely guided evolution.


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18 Jun 2024, 5:38 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
DuckHairback wrote:
I don't find evolution difficult to accept. I know some people do.

What I do find a little more hard to accept is natural selection. The whole random mutations thing just seems too scattershot to me. Perhaps it's just the timescales involved that make it difficult to grasp.

I'm not saying there's an intelligence guiding it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were more to it than random mutations. I can't quite describe what I mean here.


I follow what you're saying. As I've already stated, I believe in a divinely guided evolution.


I sometimes wish I believed in something like that, but I just can't.

What I'm talking about is more like a feedback loop that we can't perceive for some reason. That somehow the environment is guiding the mutations towards the 'correct' answer. Not simply by destroying the inappropriate mutations but somehow communicating what is required.

Maybe you would call that divine guidance. I don't know. I just don't like the random bit!


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