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09 Feb 2024, 3:15 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Are there still private clubs in the UK?


My late father was a member of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travellers_Club . I'm not sure whether he gave up being a member when he decided to stay in the USA, after his posting as Consul general to Atlanta ended.


Cool! your father sounds like he was in the foreign service. I like the idea of a club with cocktails and cigars :D


Yes, he joined the Foreign office after a very brief time as an army officer.


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09 Feb 2024, 4:34 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Are there still private clubs in the UK?


There have always been private clubs such as model railway clubs which I describe as "Semi-private" in that all are welcome to join but only members who join will normally be attending the club days or evenings. Their outward reach into the public domain maybe with the yearly exhibition.
Other such clubs exist covering other hobbies and interests.


Sorry I ,mean't "members only" clubs


Do you mean secretive clubs such as masons and things like that?


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09 Feb 2024, 4:41 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are there still private clubs in the UK?


There have always been private clubs such as model railway clubs which I describe as "Semi-private" in that all are welcome to join but only members who join will normally be attending the club days or evenings. Their outward reach into the public domain maybe with the yearly exhibition.
Other such clubs exist covering other hobbies and interests.


Sorry I ,mean't "members only" clubs


Do you mean secretive clubs such as masons, roman army and things like that?


I think he means these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_club


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09 Feb 2024, 4:48 am

Yes like this one
https://www.5hertfordstreet.com/s/



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09 Feb 2024, 5:15 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are there still private clubs in the UK?


There have always been private clubs such as model railway clubs which I describe as "Semi-private" in that all are welcome to join but only members who join will normally be attending the club days or evenings. Their outward reach into the public domain maybe with the yearly exhibition.
Other such clubs exist covering other hobbies and interests.


Sorry I ,mean't "members only" clubs


Do you mean secretive clubs such as masons, roman army and things like that?


I think he means these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_club


Yes they exist but are in decline.


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16 Jan 2025, 6:03 pm

In reference to the Michael Caine interview, one of the intended targets of the 60s cultural revolution in the west was the admonishment of people who clung to class based social hierarchy. In my parent's generation there really were finishing schools for girls which taught young women to be "ladylike". I'm sure most people have watched old movies where young women were taught "etiquette" in how to dress, how to lay out a dinner table, manners and how to speak.

So Michael Caine's admonishment of his aunt's comment about "the other day I met a real lady" was perhaps a bit unfair on the old duck. the class system never left, what has changed is class mobility. People who watched the courtship of prince William and Kate Middleton were obsessed with her "pedigree" and jaws dropped to the floor when her mother's very clear working class roots (her maiden name was Goldsmith) were identified and sent tongues wagging. But Michael Caine is right on one point, the most flack she received for her tainted bloodline came from working class people who were likely jealous one of their folk go lucky and climbed out of the middle class.