"I love you" and similar discomforters

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Participant626
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30 Mar 2025, 10:54 am

I feel uncomfortable when someone says, "I love you," to me. In my head, I immediately think, "No you don't." I know this because within the next few months, I'm going to inadvertently do something that upsets them, and they're going to get upset as hell with me instead of being understanding or open to discussion. Same thing happens with people saying something like, "It's great to see you," and "I had such a great time," but to a much lesser extent. In my head, they don't mean it, so what it does is prompt a response from me thinking, "Oh, it's time to be fake ig." Here's a list that does the same. Please contribute as you'd like.

- We're a family
- I've missed you (so much)
- We really need to [do an event together] some time
- That's great!

I think the thing is that it seems fake. When I think of "great", I think of marvel. Seeing me isn't a marvel. It's enjoyably interesting at best, but probably amusing or mildly pleasing. I think in retrospective analysis considering my difficulty reading intentions, it makes sense that some people would pick up on my deficiency and try to accommodate it by exaggerating so that their sentiment registers, so that makes sense and it's good to be aware of. However, it does make me suspicious if they're being helpful or manipulative.

Any tips? Some people are being helpful and clear, but some people are not and I have trouble figuring out who is doing what.


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30 Mar 2025, 11:06 am

Participant626 wrote:
I feel uncomfortable when someone says, "I love you," to me. In my head, I immediately think, "No you don't." I know this because within the next few months, I'm going to inadvertently do something that upsets them, and they're going to get upset as hell with me instead of being understanding or open to discussion. Same thing happens with people saying something like, "It's great to see you," and "I had such a great time," but to a much lesser extent. In my head, they don't mean it, so what it does is prompt a response from me thinking, "Oh, it's time to be fake ig." Here's a list that does the same. Please contribute as you'd like.

- We're a family
- I've missed you (so much)
- We really need to [do an event together] some time
- That's great!

I think the thing is that is seems fake. When I think of "great", I think of marvel. Seeing me isn't a marvel. It's enjoyably interesting at best, but probably amusing or mildly pleasing. I think in retrospective analysis considering my difficulty reading intentions, it makes sense that some people would pick up on my deficiency and try to accommodate it by exaggerating so that their sentiment registers, so that makes sense and it's good to be aware of. However, it does make me suspicious if they're being helpful or manipulative.

Any tips? Some people are being helpful and clear, but some people are not and I have trouble figuring out who is doing what.


I don't have any tips, but I have a similar discomfort with any sort of emotional language; it's annoying as hell since in my mind (like in yours) it's all fake.


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30 Mar 2025, 11:43 am

Not a fan of statements like that either. Feels forced and weird.


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30 Mar 2025, 1:19 pm

Thank youuuuuuuu, both!


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30 Mar 2025, 9:42 pm

I think that they don't usually expect you to believe these things, to read much into their meanings, or to take them very literally. I think they're saying them as courtesies, honorifics, marks of respect, and gestures of goodwill. So I don't feel lied to exactly. It's just that they talk a different language. Sometimes it really is dishonest schmooze, like complimenting you on something they don't even like, but mostly I think people are just saying they like you.

I can't say those things much myself. With "I love you" I just expect the other person to know it already from my behaviour towards them. That's how I work - loving is as loving does, not as loving says. But I compromise a bit, and I can write it easier than I can say it.

Somebody from a traditional African culture got on my case once for not praising her ancestors. Apparently it's just what you do in some cultures, you tell them their ancestors were great people and it really wows them to hear it. I just couldn't do it because it felt so false. I didn't have a clue who her ancestors were (I don't think she did either), and I can't sing the praises of somebody I know nothing about.

I suppose I've got the opposite problem - like when it feels good to see somebody, when it's a comfort to have them around or whatever, and I don't think to tell them that. People do me a lot of good and I don't acknowledge it much. I like it when I remember to say. Well, sometimes I do. Other times I feel a bit embarrassed.



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18 Apr 2025, 2:50 pm

^ What a fantastic response! It was so great to read it! I appreciate the effort you put into giving such a thoughtful answer to my question!


Ugghhhhh. I can't do it. I appreciate the validation and education. I'm going to try understanding those statements as courtesies and see what happens. Thank you!


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18 Apr 2025, 3:10 pm

Many people, even if they are NT, have a hard time hearing or saying "I love you". It's easy to say "I love my pet" or "I love chocolate cake" or "I love this music", but when it comes to expressing love and affection for another human, it just doesn't feel natural.

Maybe because it isn't natural. Maybe humans are not really capable of feeling love for each other and we've only been socially conditioned to act like we do so we don't look psycho.



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18 Apr 2025, 3:25 pm

Participant626 wrote:
^ What a fantastic response! It was so great to read it! I appreciate the effort you put into giving such a thoughtful answer to my question!

Thanks for saying that. It's no great effort. I just sit here and listen to what my little brain spits out, write it down, edit it a bit, and hit the send button. It always feels good to express what I think and feel, so it's a reward in itself, but even better when somebody can relate to it.



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18 Apr 2025, 3:52 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
Many people, even if they are NT, have a hard time hearing or saying "I love you". It's easy to say "I love my pet" or "I love chocolate cake" or "I love this music", but when it comes to expressing love and affection for another human, it just doesn't feel natural.

Maybe because it isn't natural. Maybe humans are not really capable of feeling love for each other and we've only been socially conditioned to act like we do so we don't look psycho.


I don't think it's like that. I have loved people before. It's been my experience in the past several years that when most people say it to me, it isn't valid at face value.

It's kind of like being told you're not autistic for your whole life, then finding out you are. You've always been autistic, and it was obvious to many because they pointed it out indirectly. Now, you find out that many of those same people were telling you they loved you. Is that real like the autism denials? If we go by objective analysis, they're equally valid.


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