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12 May 2025, 3:44 pm

There are obviously legitimate criticisms to be had of the bible.

I think that Christianity is bigger than the bible though, on a slightly different note.

A lot of Christians just like the idea of worshipping God with other like minded people and the bible is obviously an important part of Christianity, but it isn't everything about Christianity, although it does make it unique in a significant way to some poeple, I guess?



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12 May 2025, 3:45 pm

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Yes I did in a children's home

They tried to make me go to church but I wouldn't have any of it so I got locked I an attic room for a whole weekend :lol:

Well it felt like a whole weekend anyway


Oh right, yeah, that would make sense with the children's home.

Bb and her church shirking ways. :lol:



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12 May 2025, 3:49 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
There are obviously legitimate criticisms to be had of the bible.

I think that Christianity is bigger than the bible though, on a slightly different note.

A lot of Christians just like the idea of worshipping God with other like minded people and the bible is obviously an important part of Christianity, but it isn't everything about Christianity, although it does make it unique in a significant way to some poeple, I guess?


That kinda seems like claiming to be a Star Wars fan, adopting Darth Vader as your favourite character but ignoring canon material that shows Vader as an antagonist because emotionally that person wants Vader to be a hero.

Might as well adopt a generic god if you don't want to worship the god of Abraham as depicted in the bible. It's also questionable if those people are Christian by any meaningful definition, if they're not too concerned about their understanding of god being informed by canon sources.


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12 May 2025, 3:53 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
There are obviously legitimate criticisms to be had of the bible.

I think that Christianity is bigger than the bible though, on a slightly different note.

A lot of Christians just like the idea of worshipping God with other like minded people and the bible is obviously an important part of Christianity, but it isn't everything about Christianity, although it does make it unique in a significant way to some poeple, I guess?


That kinda seems like claiming to be a Star Wars fan, adopting Darth Vader as your favourite character but ignoring canon material that shows Vader as an antagonist because emotionally that person wants Vader to be a hero.

Might as well adopt a generic god if you don't want to worship the god of Abraham as depicted in the bible. It's also questionable if those people are Christian by any meaningful definition, if they're not too concerned about their understanding of god being informed by canon sources.


I agree that not taking the bible seriously as a Christian typically means that a Christian is less dedicated than a bible believing Christian. I suppose some people prefer aligning their religion with their country and its history, even if they have reservations about, or are not super interested in the bible, which would explain why some people still choose Christianity in these circumstances rather than a generic religion or a generic god.



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12 May 2025, 4:01 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
I agree that not taking the bible seriously as a Christian typically means that a Christian is less dedicated than a bible believing Christian. I suppose some people prefer aligning their religion with their country and its history, even if they have reservations about, or are not super interested in the bible, which would explain why some people still choose Christianity in these circumstances rather than a generic religion or a generic god.


I mostly agree with that, although I'd also say in some cases the local major religion (like Christianity or Islam) is treated like a generic religion, with whatever is incompatible just being handwaved away.

Basically, they retain a Christian (or Muslim) identity because it's seen as synonymous with being devout, even if what they're practising and what they believe is quite at odds with more traditional understandings of those religions.

But, regardless of how they self-identify, there comes a point where they're really not Christian (or Muslim, or whatever) by any reasonable definition.


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12 May 2025, 4:10 pm

^ Yeah.

Sorry I'm being lazy in my reply, I agree with what you said so I'll leave it at that.



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13 May 2025, 12:21 am

To me in the biblical sense means explaining something in the Bible in a scriptural sense using scripture from the Holy Bible which is not intrepeted through your own reasoning and understanding-but sticking to the script litreally with little room for human intrepetation.

For example-We are told that Jesus encountered the devil 3 times in the Bible in the Garden of Gethesame and it was done. Jesus was there for 40 days and 40 nights. Someone with a questioning mind may wonder if the Devil did indeed visit Jesus more than those three times..but it was not recorded and would just be assumed. A Biblical sense you would stick to the text given with no questioning to explain it.
The below quote might explain a bit why some people stick to the Biblical sense.

Proverbs 3:5-6

"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; And lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he shall direct thy paths."


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