SCOTUS declines to hear a ‘two genders' T-shirt ban case
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The case arose from student Liam Morrison’s dispute with Nichols Middle School in Middleborough.
Lawyers for Morrison at the Alliance Defending Freedom, a conservative Christian legal advocacy group, say students were “bombarded” with messages promoting the view “that sex and gender are self-defined, limitless, and unmoored from biology.”
Morrison believes that view is “false and harmful” and responded in March 2023 when he was in seventh grade by wearing the T-shirt. After he was told to remove it, he later wore another shirt that said “There are [censored] genders.”
Morrison was not punished for wearing the shirts, although he was told he could not wear them in class and was sent home when he refused to remove the first one.
"We’re disappointed the Supreme Court chose not to hear this critical free speech case," David Cortman, one of Morrison's lawyers, said in a statement.
"Students don’t lose their free speech rights the moment they walk into a school building. Schools can’t suppress students’ views they disagree with," he added.
Two conservative members of the court, Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Samuel Alito, dissented from the decision not to hear the case.
"This case presents an issue of great importance for our nation's youth: whether public schools may suppress student speech either because it expresses a viewpoint that the school disfavors or because of vague concerns about the likely effect of the speech on the school atmosphere or on students who find the speech offensive," Alito wrote.
The case raised questions about the extent of free speech rights for public school students under the Constitution’s First Amendment, which was recognized in a landmark 1969 ruling that found students had the right to wear armbands protesting the Vietnam War.
School administrators point to the student dress code, which bars any “hate speech or imagery,” saying they were merely enforcing those requirements in order to avoid disruption in school.
Morrison’s lawyers say the dress code’s restrictions on speech are unconstitutional.
Both a federal district court judge and the Boston-based 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of the school.
The appeals court concluded that based on the 1969 ruling, school officials can bar “passive and silently expressed messages” that demean other people even if the expression at issue does not target a specific student.
The Supreme Court is currently weighing a case from Maryland over an attempt by parents to ensure elementary school children can opt out of LGBT-focused books that might be read in class
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Free speech seems to be the excuse they always use to defend hate speech.
Ironically those same "free speech absolutists" have no problem with deporting college kids over criticizing Israel, which tells you how little they actually care about free speech.
When they say free speech, you're right, they only mean their preferred hate speech.
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When I was younger, I used to volunteer at a cat shelter. One time we got this cat in and the cat happened to be Intersex. This cat had ambiguous characteristics that did not neatly fit in the male or female category. So, we marked the chart with an I for Intersex.
One day this woman came in and started screaming the place down. She claimed that political correctness had gone mad and that this was a crime against God.
The manager tried to explain that we needed to have an I on the chart for medical reasons. Ultimately the woman did not relent and insisted we assign the cat an M or an F marker. So, my manager asked her what she wanted the marker to be. The woman chose a female marker and the manager changed it to F...until the woman left and then we immediately changed it back.
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In UK schools, we have uniforms from around age four onwards.
It's difficult. If you say no you can't wear that, then people will claim oppression and resentment occurs. However, if you allow it then complaints will happen and arguments or fights are likely to happen. Banning all statements (trying to be as apolitical as possible) tends to backfire.
It should be common courtesy not to wear something that is likely to cause controversy or harm. Enforcing that is another matter though. Shame they can't just say 'play stupid games win stupid prizes'.
The UK generally treats school a lot like a corporate work environment where only corporate formal attire is acceptable. You are told that you represent the school and the school's values. Granted, we often rebelled.
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This is speech in a middle school from what I recall, and free speech is generally curtailed somewhat in K-12 schools as it's the responsibility of the school to teach appropriate behavior and the need to have an environment that's free of unnecessary distractions.
Wearing a shirt like that to school serves little purpose other than to bully other students. As an adult, if I want to wear a shirt like that I'm free to do so. I just wouldn't because that would be a jerk move and completely misses the point.
Free speech seems to be the excuse they always use to defend hate speech.
Ironically those same "free speech absolutists" have no problem with deporting college kids over criticizing Israel, which tells you how little they actually care about free speech.
When they say free speech, you're right, they only mean their preferred hate speech.
It's middle school so free speech isn't really the relevant consideration, the fact that it's disruptive is in and of itself enough justification whether it's hate speech or not is a different matter.
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Free speech seems to be the excuse they always use to defend hate speech.
Ironically those same "free speech absolutists" have no problem with deporting college kids over criticizing Israel, which tells you how little they actually care about free speech.
When they say free speech, you're right, they only mean their preferred hate speech.
It's middle school so free speech isn't really the relevant consideration, the fact that it's disruptive is in and of itself enough justification whether it's hate speech or not is a different matter.
We're clearing discussing freeze peach more broadly, not just focusing on this specific case. You're right that schools have somewhat different rules, but that's irrelevant to the general trend of freeze peach absolutists rarely actually caring about freedom of speech.
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In the United States hate speech is considered speech that is protected by the first amendment of the constitution. Protected speech means in most cases you can not be arrested for it. Speech that will cause imminent harm is not protected.
The United States is much more permissive about what speech is allowed than most other countries, the theory being that good ideas that are new or outliers have a better chance if being heard.
There is an old saying about people who are hypocrites about free speech “Free speech for me not for thee”
There is a new term starting to be used to describe people who were yelling and and screaming about censorship of conservative who now favor censoring progressive ideas. That term is “woke right”.
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