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15 Jun 2025, 8:52 pm

We just saw Patience, episode 1 "Paper Mountain Girl: Part 1" [Jun 15, 2025].

"We" being:
• me, Autism Spectrum Disorder, Level1 (Mild)
• my bride, ADHD and not Autistic.

We both liked it but I think:
(a) Patience's makeup was too much and too good
(b) Patience's mouth was too expressive (in physical expressions, not vocalizations)
and my bride disagreed on both.

I would love to hear comments, especially from female Aspies.

P.S. So far, I prefer Astrid et Raphaëlle [2019– ] but both are good.

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16 Jun 2025, 8:32 am

Double Retired wrote:

This is on my watch list, which has been thrown into chaos when I came down with a non-COVID viral respiratory thing two weeks ago. It is expected to last three to four week. It is annoying.

and your color formatting is wonderful/gorgeous.

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16 Jun 2025, 10:48 am

We watched it broadcast by one of our PBS stations. 8PM Sunday was the first broadcast but there were a few rebroadcasts within a few days. If we'd missed that then we would've had to wait 'til I could buy the disk. (We are configured for TV by antenna or by disk...anything else conflicts with my Luddite suspicions.)

I hope you feel well enough to watch it soon enough to avoid having to spend money on it. Then, if you like it, you can spend money with confidence...from what I've seen I expect to buy the disks.

Regarding the colors in my posts... I started programming in high school in 1971. While I don't particularly trust computers, I think they are fun toys. And I wrote an Excel spreadsheet, for fun, that allows me to play with colors in my posts.

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16 Jun 2025, 4:00 pm

PBS has a webpage, and I can stream it from there. I laid down to rest and watched the first episode. Because I watched Astrid et Raphaëlle, I am familiar with the story.
Not female, but I've watched YouTube videos of woman who are on the spectrum. Makeup is at either extreme, and in between, from what I've seen. I watched a couple episodes of Love on the Spectrum (U.S. version). It is a Netflix series. There is also an Australian version.

I cannot speak to the expressiveness of the mouth.

I hope you get some answers. Sometimes I have questions and with my social limitations, I have no one to ask, so I ask in the forums. Good luck.

Regards to your Bride.

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17 Jun 2025, 12:22 am

I think her mouth is too expressive but that helped me bond to her.

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17 Jun 2025, 1:03 pm

I'll agree her facial expressions probably help with liking the character but I really was expecting her face to be less expressive...more like Sonya Cross or Astrid Nielsen. But, it took me 55 years to figure out I was looking at an Aspie guy when I looked in a mirror and if I've met an Aspie gal I did not know it so I am speaking from some combination of ignorance and obliviousness.

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17 Jun 2025, 9:11 pm

We just saw it again. I think she should be moving more like a robot...but otherwise I really like the show.

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18 Jun 2025, 9:15 pm

"‘Patience’ Boss on Depicting Autism as a Strength & Diverting From Source Material in New Crime Drama"

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Neurodivergent characters are getting more frequent representation on TV. BritBox’s Ludwig, while not outright saying that its titular character is on the autism spectrum, shows how neurodivergent, out-of-the-box thinking can help solve crimes. PBS Masterpiece’s newest detective series, Patience, does something similar, but this time through drama instead of comedy, and it is explicitly about a woman with autism. The June 15 Patience series premiere debuted Ella Maisy Purvis as Patience Evans, a young autistic woman whose work in the York Criminal Records Office changes when Detective Bea Metcalf (Laura Fraser) recognizes her unique powers of deduction and asks her to join her team.

Purvis herself has autism, and she made frequent contributions to the character’s creation thanks to that, both behind the scenes and through her performance. And there are neurodivergent writers in the writer’s room. Patience‘s lead writer, Matt Baker, tells TV Insider that he is not neurodivergent but has a cousin who has autism, which made him aware of the lived experience of neurodivergent people tangentially. The series is based on the French series Astrid et Raphaëlle. Some details in the first episode and beyond are pulled directly from Astrid, such as Patience’s flow chart used to help her get through the anxiety of making phone calls. But this new adaptation did set out to paint a more evolved picture of people with autism by avoiding autistic stereotypes typically seen in media, even in Astrid to a degree.

The Autistic character is being played by an Autistic actress.

OK. I need to meet more Autistics. I only know the stereotypes.

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Yesterday, 1:23 pm

Wow!
We have an actress on the spectrum that passed has a neurotypical actress playing neurodivergent character.

My belief is we were diagnosed late in life. Autism was not on our radar for most of our lives. We are still learning.

Thank you for the fascinating article.

FYI. I have finished the series and I hope it is picked up for a second, and third.

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