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20 Jun 2025, 3:57 am

Do you speak in tongues or do you have any experience of this phenomena
Or what is your theory on the matter

Personally I talk gibberish when I'm falling asleep and waking up
But I think I'm talking to The Alien


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20 Jun 2025, 5:08 am

Good thread

Hi Babybird speaking in tongues is one of the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit and when someone is using it they are praying to God in an unknown language to them privately. You need to someone else though to intrept the tongues and if you don't have this person you won't know what it might mean. You can find people in some church's who can untangle this as they have one of the gifts of the seven to interept the language and message. Even if not done with a second person if just praying to God directly, some see as edifying to their soul like Justin Webly former Archbishop of the Anglican have talked about, his experience of using glossolalia which is tongues.

Me, yes I have used to tongues before in my life at some point. I don't know what it meant though as no second person there was tell me whether that was auntehic or not due to extreme stress in a hypersensitive person.

That hasn't been verified to me the tongues as one of my gifts originally-so it happened to me it was done additionally as a part of my life and I am not sure permanently resides with me. God can pour into things and recede at any time if she chooses.

The gifts of the Holy Spirit are found in 1 Corithinans 12 and Romans 12. They are given during baptisim with the Holy Spirit usually for a Christian. Additionally some other ceremoninal service through water or laying on of hands by a minister at church may manfiest them if they are for God's purposes only. This is to nuture and support a believer in their journey as a Christian and to support the church and other Christians to edify, exhort and console them.


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20 Jun 2025, 8:26 pm

I'm familiar with speaking in tongues and it doesn't impress me as a nonbeliever. In fact, I find it quite cringe. But do note that I'm picturing false prophet Hank Kunneman and some other Trump-worshiping Christofascist scam artist (of whose name I forget. Wish I could also forget about Kunneman. Dear lord) when they were hugging a US flag and "speaking in tongues" for their lord and savior Trump.

Now, I used to be a Christian, and I think that colors my view here as well. I was not raised in Pentecostal or Charismatic churches (Thank goodness!! !) and thus the very concept of speaking in tongues is completely foreign to me even as an ex-Christian. If I were still a Christian and I saw these goons speaking in tongues, I'd think it were Satanic (especially Kunneman and those like him, they're pure evil).

As I said I'm not impressed by speaking in tongues, though. By that I mean that it has been researched and it's not some super special holy language, it's a "language" that varies by the speaker's own native language's syntax. It's just gibberish. Now how it comes to be (aside from with those charlatans like those mentioned in the first paragraph) is fascinating. I know there's a scientific term for it but I forgot it.


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20 Jun 2025, 8:34 pm



My boy's speaking in tongues.


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21 Jun 2025, 2:14 am

There is a difference when it is used in Christanity and of the Holy Spirit blessed type it is called Glossolalia as I have stated previously. People are usually speaking to God directly in their prayers and he understands what is being said. If it is used in church it needs another person to intrept what is being said and it may be a message from God as well if revealed.

This is different completely from the gibberish that some people might talk to them if worse for wear and should not really be seen on the same level as the spiritual gift it can be as well in the Christian ministry.

Here the former Archbishop in the UK talks about his spiritual gift of speaking in tongues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46945022


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22 Jun 2025, 1:19 pm

It's all for theatrics and show.



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22 Jun 2025, 1:28 pm

When I talk gibberish I know it's because I'm going through something that I haven't got the words for and so it's just coming out as noise that sounds like words

Maybe that's what's going on


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22 Jun 2025, 2:44 pm

RachObi wrote:
There is a difference when it is used in Christanity and of the Holy Spirit blessed type it is called Glossolalia as I have stated previously. People are usually speaking to God directly in their prayers and he understands what is being said. If it is used in church it needs another person to intrept what is being said and it may be a message from God as well if revealed.

This is different completely from the gibberish that some people might talk to them if worse for wear and should not really be seen on the same level as the spiritual gift it can be as well in the Christian ministry.

Here the former Archbishop in the UK talks about his spiritual gift of speaking in tongues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46945022


It's performative gibberish, nothing more. Only people within the cult accept the cult's understanding of what it is. No one outside of the cult shares that understanding.


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22 Jun 2025, 9:07 pm

I guess singing in scat is sort of like speaking in tongues. Skiddly boppa-doopa-dabbly-doopa-doo-dee-doo.



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22 Jun 2025, 11:41 pm

Speaking in tongues is a part of Christianity-it is one of the spiritual gifts. Not all Christians would welcome this and it is not is not given to all Christians the authetntic spiritual gift that is, but those who Jesus appoints with it as the Bible states it is given to. There is a revival at the moment with spirituality/Christanity.

I have no intention of trying to convine someone who is opposed to this, it is a journey of self discovery. You either believe it or you don't and we cannot debate this ourselves, you have to observe it, have the faith or just believe it and if you don't we quickly move on and live peacefully together.

I want to say this though, if you are that curious about this and want to know more observation for you may be the way to go. An eye witness account-perhaps poke around some Catholic Charimastic renewal church's if you have them where you live and make time and go and observe to learn more about how spiritual gifts works and speak to the ministers. These are holy spirit Catholic church's that can be a bit different than the typical services that can go on for 2hrs plus and can be done in about 1hrs 15 it seems.

Looking what is out there on this and I attend an Anglican church just two minutes from me. I don't attend any of the services below.

https://www.godisableccrpg.org.uk/gallery/

This service to in the UK which is aimed more at young people seems to be thriving in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit and worship as well.

https://cenaclecharismatic.com/

Some further links

https://cccgh.com/ these are priests who run these services

https://holyspiritlantana.com/

https://www.facebook.com/HolySpiritLantana/live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXU7i7JzXUo


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Yesterday, 10:17 am

A group with Trump’s Faith Office praying and speaking in tongues at the White House

I cannot even begin to tell you how dystopian and scary it feels to see this kind of stuff in the government. I recognize everything they're saying (not the gibberish "speaking in tongues", of course), as someone who formerly worked in a Christian Nationalist Evangelical workplace (don't ask. You've got to do what you've got to do in the modern job market. If someone calls you and gives you an interview and hires you, you go with it.) which also sent me down a rabbithole researching these beliefs I can't even begin to tell you how scary and dystopian this is.

Of course, it's not the fake speaking in tongues that is dystopian (there can probably be Christians that speak in tongues that are chill, not hateful, and aren't deadset on turning the USA into a theocracy - I am not talking about them), it is these peoples' beliefs altogether. They are unhinged and very dangerous.


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Yesterday, 10:36 am

Too many conmen and cult leaders through history have used religion to manipulate people for me to take any of the super natural phenomena associated with it seriously.


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Yesterday, 11:01 am

Can't help wondering; when people speak in tongues, doesn't that mean in languages not used locally? if so, how would any listeners know if it was another language, or just so much noise? Reminds me a of a young couple who thought their first child was gifted in speach, and claimed it was speaking Babylonian. How wouldanyone today know what babylonian sounds like?


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Yesterday, 11:36 am

^ It’s gibberish using sounds that are commonly used in one’s own language. When “speaking in tongues,” people often repeat sounds and syllables, generally in a rhythmic way. It seems that there’s typically some form but not likely meaning.

Linguists have some idea what ancient languages sounded like by comparing them to languages in the same family through studying ancient texts.

One of my uncles is a Pentecostal. He used to “speak in tongues.” I say used to because he’s earned himself a very well-deserved life-sentence in prison. I’m not sure if he still engages in the practice there or not. It doesn’t seem very likely to me, not that I’m knowledgeable about Such Things.

There’s no way any sane deity would give that individual a gift although I don’t fully believe that he was engaging in full-on cons about it, either. I think he tended to get swept up in emotion and gibberish came out. A while back, I watched documentaries on this and related topics in an attempt to understand and found them extremely interesting - the way people can be led to behave very strangely under the right circumstances and with the right set of beliefs all while believing it’s true.


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Yesterday, 2:12 pm

gwynfryn wrote:
Can't help wondering; when people speak in tongues, doesn't that mean in languages not used locally? if so, how would any listeners know if it was another language, or just so much noise? Reminds me a of a young couple who thought their first child was gifted in speach, and claimed it was speaking Babylonian. How wouldanyone today know what babylonian sounds like?


Yeah that's what I think
I'd like to know has anyone interpreted it and what does it mean


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Yesterday, 2:16 pm

gwynfryn wrote:
Can't help wondering; when people speak in tongues, doesn't that mean in languages not used locally? if so, how would any listeners know if it was another language, or just so much noise? Reminds me a of a young couple who thought their first child was gifted in speach, and claimed it was speaking Babylonian. How wouldanyone today know what babylonian sounds like?


They don't. It's either delusion or LARPing, depending on how self-aware they might be about their own BS.


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