Well I guess Israel and Iran are at war now.
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21 Jun 2025, 3:24 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Finally, they are in direct war against each others instead of using their dogs (ie. Hezbollah) in other countries, let em burn together.
Lebanon and some other arab countries were getting f****d up anyway through proxy wars initiated by Iran through its groups; so why you the Leftist Wrongplanet users seem to be sad for Iran being finally f****d up directly?
You weren’t that much sad for Lebanon when it got dragged by Hezbollah (= Iran) to a destructive war, I think.
I would celebrate if either Netanyahu or Khameni gets killed in this round; more if it is the latter frankly because this one literally brought us cancer here.
Lebanon and some other arab countries were getting f****d up anyway through proxy wars initiated by Iran through its groups; so why you the Leftist Wrongplanet users seem to be sad for Iran being finally f****d up directly?
You weren’t that much sad for Lebanon when it got dragged by Hezbollah (= Iran) to a destructive war, I think.
I would celebrate if either Netanyahu or Khameni gets killed in this round; more if it is the latter frankly because this one literally brought us cancer here.
Hey man, like I don't like war at all. I am sad and angry about civilians being caught up in this. Like when I am just doing things around the house like laundry or washing the dishes I think about how in some places people are worried about getting blown up while doing normal tasks like that.
And leftist wrong planet people were talking in support of Irainians standing up against their government about killing that girl for having a strand of hair come out of her hijab. Idk Netanyahu doesn't even care about the Isreali hostages that hamas took. I don't know anything about Khameni, but with the killing women for not having proper hijabs is anything to go by he is probably awful to.
LIke, no I am not sad for Iran finally being f**d up, I am sad for the civilians that will suffer because of the war. LIke I am not so sure wars actually ever solve anything. And Idk maybe I did not post this in the best way...but it just feels like the Isreali government wanted a war, so now they have one. Cause as much as I also don't like the Iranian government as far as I heard and read Israel fired the first shot.
And yeah I never heard about the lebenon and hezbollah situation specifically like in news if it was posted here, well for quite some time I've only popped in here and there, but if kids and families were being massacured if I had heard about it I for sure would have been talking about the unjustness of that as well. But news in america, is not always very good about telling us what is happening in other places.
And yeah Iranian government sucks, the Isreali government sucks and the main people who will suffer from this conflict is the civilians of both countries and yeah I don't like that.
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21 Jun 2025, 11:15 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdora wrote:
wanting to overthrow a dangerous regime does not mean hating people. You are conflating the two. Had the US and UK not mollycoddled Mr Hitler (particularly Neville Chamberlain) and pre-emptively removed the Nazis its likely millions of innocent lives would have been spared.
Do Israel and the US have a right to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons? I think in the interests of world safety it might have to be done. But do the US and Israel have the right to overthrow the clerics? why not ask the Iranian people. According to Boo > 50% hate their authoritarian overloads. Israel/US might well be doing the Iranian people a massive favour. Haven't you seen the protests about women's in tehran? I'm sure the Palestinians would also greatly benefit from overthrowing HAMAS, Lebanon getting rid of Hezbollah, Yemen getting rid of Houthis, Afghanistan getting rid of the taliban etc.
As much as you don't want to admit it, there is mutual benefit in toppling regimes who rule their people through fear and terror. Clerics divert money from health, infrastructure development, education and jobs to creating weapons of mass destruction and employ secret police whose sole job it is to oppress the Iranian people. How would the Iranian people be to taste freedom, why deprive them of that chance.
Do Israel and the US have a right to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons? I think in the interests of world safety it might have to be done. But do the US and Israel have the right to overthrow the clerics? why not ask the Iranian people. According to Boo > 50% hate their authoritarian overloads. Israel/US might well be doing the Iranian people a massive favour. Haven't you seen the protests about women's in tehran? I'm sure the Palestinians would also greatly benefit from overthrowing HAMAS, Lebanon getting rid of Hezbollah, Yemen getting rid of Houthis, Afghanistan getting rid of the taliban etc.
As much as you don't want to admit it, there is mutual benefit in toppling regimes who rule their people through fear and terror. Clerics divert money from health, infrastructure development, education and jobs to creating weapons of mass destruction and employ secret police whose sole job it is to oppress the Iranian people. How would the Iranian people be to taste freedom, why deprive them of that chance.
I didn't accuse Boo of hating the Iranian people. Only the regime.
Are you drunk again, or just really this bad at reading comprehension?
As for the rest of your post, it's nonsense.
The US and UK probably didn't have the ability to engage in regime change in Germany in the 30s, so it's yet another case of a bad premise leading to a BS argument.
And in this case, you follow up one BS argument with another one, that somehow Iran is more of a threat to world peace than the US or Israel. How many wars of aggression has the US engaged in since 1979? How many has Israel engaged in? Now, how many has Iran engaged in (remembering that Iraq attacked Iran)?
If you want to discuss regime change, America and Israel are the top of the list of regimes that deserve to be toppled.
With that in mind, neither of them have the legitimacy to go imposing regime change on other states.
But, if you want to make the argument that levelling Iran's infrastructure and killing a bunch of civilians will be a net good for Iran, be my guest.
But you can “topple” your regime, by winning the next elections, the Iranians can’t (their president is nothing but a puppet for Ayatollah) , and maybe won’t have this choice even for whole next generations later.
Regardless of how much you hate your current administration, it was still elected by your people and won by a significant margin too.
Nonsense. The US Presidency is more or less fixed the same way that the Iranian Presidency is. The only difference is whether it's a figure that we can identify, or it's a bunch of oligarchs that mostly try to remain hidden. The Democrats haven't even bothered to let the primary voters choose the candidate since 2008 and even then it was just because they couldn't rig things quickly enough to stop Obama from taking the primary.
This whole business of suggesting that they don't have a real government or that their votes don't matter at all is a bunch of lies. Yes, I would like to see them have more of a say in their own governance, but it's intellectually dishonest to suggest that there isn't at least some agency of the voters in terms of the range of options on offer, even if it is a narrow range.
21 Jun 2025, 11:17 am
cyberdora wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
If you want to discuss regime change, America and Israel are the top of the list of regimes that deserve to be toppled.
With that in mind, neither of them have the legitimacy to go imposing regime change on other states.
But, if you want to make the argument that levelling Iran's infrastructure and killing a bunch of civilians will be a net good for Iran, be my guest.
With that in mind, neither of them have the legitimacy to go imposing regime change on other states.
But, if you want to make the argument that levelling Iran's infrastructure and killing a bunch of civilians will be a net good for Iran, be my guest.
No, I never supported carpet bombing Gaza or attacking civilians in Iran. Both Israel and the US are capable of strategic strikes on nuclear targets. Shouldn't be any need to attack homes or hospitals.
And in my list of regimes needing toppling I'll include trump, Netanyahu, Putin, Zelensky and the entire corrupt communist parties in North Korea and China. But one corrupt regime at a time I guess.
Whatever it takes to sleep well at night, I guess, but for those of us that have an actual conscience, defending Israel would absolutely haunt us to our dying day given that they are intentionally doing all that stuff and only able to get away with it due to the propaganda and public disinformation campaign that you're actively participating in.
21 Jun 2025, 11:18 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Finally, they are in direct war against each others instead of using their dogs (ie. Hezbollah) in other countries, let em burn together.
Lebanon and some other arab countries were getting f****d up anyway through proxy wars initiated by Iran through its groups; so why you the Leftist Wrongplanet users seem to be sad for Iran being finally f****d up directly?
You weren’t that much sad for Lebanon when it got dragged by Hezbollah (= Iran) to a destructive war, I think.
I would celebrate if either Netanyahu or Khameni gets killed in this round; more if it is the latter frankly because this one literally brought us cancer here.
Lebanon and some other arab countries were getting f****d up anyway through proxy wars initiated by Iran through its groups; so why you the Leftist Wrongplanet users seem to be sad for Iran being finally f****d up directly?
You weren’t that much sad for Lebanon when it got dragged by Hezbollah (= Iran) to a destructive war, I think.
I would celebrate if either Netanyahu or Khameni gets killed in this round; more if it is the latter frankly because this one literally brought us cancer here.
Hey man, like I don't like war at all. I am sad and angry about civilians being caught up in this. Like when I am just doing things around the house like laundry or washing the dishes I think about how in some places people are worried about getting blown up while doing normal tasks like that.
And leftist wrong planet people were talking in support of Irainians standing up against their government about killing that girl for having a strand of hair come out of her hijab. Idk Netanyahu doesn't even care about the Isreali hostages that hamas took. I don't know anything about Khameni, but with the killing women for not having proper hijabs is anything to go by he is probably awful to.
LIke, no I am not sad for Iran finally being f**d up, I am sad for the civilians that will suffer because of the war. LIke I am not so sure wars actually ever solve anything. And Idk maybe I did not post this in the best way...but it just feels like the Isreali government wanted a war, so now they have one. Cause as much as I also don't like the Iranian government as far as I heard and read Israel fired the first shot.
And yeah I never heard about the lebenon and hezbollah situation specifically like in news if it was posted here, well for quite some time I've only popped in here and there, but if kids and families were being massacured if I had heard about it I for sure would have been talking about the unjustness of that as well. But news in america, is not always very good about telling us what is happening in other places.
And yeah Iranian government sucks, the Isreali government sucks and the main people who will suffer from this conflict is the civilians of both countries and yeah I don't like that.
It's not leftists, it's a more complicated group of people from different parts of the political spectrum supporting it for various reasons. I do think that lefties are less likely to support military intervention in Iran, but it's hardly just rightwingers that want that.
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21 Jun 2025, 12:12 pm
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Nonsense. The US Presidency is more or less fixed the same way that the Iranian Presidency is. The only difference is whether it's a figure that we can identify, or it's a bunch of oligarchs that mostly try to remain hidden. The Democrats haven't even bothered to let the primary voters choose the candidate since 2008 and even then it was just because they couldn't rig things quickly enough to stop Obama from taking the primary.
This whole business of suggesting that they don't have a real government or that their votes don't matter at all is a bunch of lies. Yes, I would like to see them have more of a say in their own governance, but it's intellectually dishonest to suggest that there isn't at least some agency of the voters in terms of the range of options on offer, even if it is a narrow range.
I see a pattern in you and funeral, all other posts that don’t align with your views are “nonsense”.
Only you and your camp make sense. It exclusive for you. You are Gods, infallible, your opinions and info are never wrong.
The very idea of you suggesting that the “democracy” in Iran is remotely similar to the imperfect democracy in the US is just amusing and absurd.
In Iran candidates are literally handpicked by the Ayatollah in tinder-like style.
I have a serious suggestion, why don’t you live in Iran? You sound a big fan and you sound to really think that life there is better than in the US.
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21 Jun 2025, 2:04 pm
And boo's descended to playground tactics.
If you're opposed to Israel's aggression why don't you just marry Iran?
But yet, we're not allowed to call such bad faith arguments nonsense otherwise we're claiming to be gods or whatever horse dookie he's yammering about.
And somehow he expects to still be taken seriously after embarrassing himself like that.
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21 Jun 2025, 3:56 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
And boo's descended to playground tactics.
If you're opposed to Israel's aggression why don't you just marry Iran?
But yet, we're not allowed to call such bad faith arguments nonsense otherwise we're claiming to be gods or whatever horse dookie he's yammering about.
And somehow he expects to still be taken seriously after embarrassing himself like that.
If you're opposed to Israel's aggression why don't you just marry Iran?
But yet, we're not allowed to call such bad faith arguments nonsense otherwise we're claiming to be gods or whatever horse dookie he's yammering about.
And somehow he expects to still be taken seriously after embarrassing himself like that.
You're free to disagree with my arguments, but dismissing them outright as "nonsense" without engaging with their substance is what I took issue with — and it’s not the first time it’s happened. That kind of knee-jerk dismissal shuts down discussion rather than deepens it.
I never claimed criticism of my posts was off-limits — but there’s a difference between debate and condescension. If I came off too sharply in my last post, fair enough, I own that.
Still, my point stands: equating Iran’s political system with that of the U.S. isn’t just a hot take — it’s a stretch that doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. Criticizing both is fair game, but pretending they operate on the same level of voter agency or transparency is misleading.
And nope, I am not feeling embarrassed, rest assured.
21 Jun 2025, 7:53 pm
I am aware Netanyahu has manufactured the the level of threat Iran's nuclear program has in the past. However do we know whether previous strikes on Iranian Uranium enrichment plants were successful enough to stave off their plans?
In case funeral and matchbox live in self selected denial, Russia and China have been in a proxy war with the west (that includes Canada and Australia) since the Korean and Vietnam war. they currently employ hackers who bombard western countries with viruses to hack confidential data. China in particular is sending spies for decades and recently caught Chinese scientists smuggling in contaminant biological material only weeks ago that would have decimated US food crops (further drawing suspicion about whether COVID19 was intentionally allowed to be released). It also puts a new perspective on Chinese spy balloons carrying a payload of biological weapons?
Both China and Russia have irresponsibly set up access to weapons to numerous Arab regimes and Iran ostensibly against Israel but as a proxy war against the US. In that respect I have zero trust in Iran's clerics and their intentions which obviously serve a long term goal for both Russia and China to weaken the west.
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21 Jun 2025, 11:04 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
And boo's descended to playground tactics.
If you're opposed to Israel's aggression why don't you just marry Iran?
But yet, we're not allowed to call such bad faith arguments nonsense otherwise we're claiming to be gods or whatever horse dookie he's yammering about.
And somehow he expects to still be taken seriously after embarrassing himself like that.
If you're opposed to Israel's aggression why don't you just marry Iran?
But yet, we're not allowed to call such bad faith arguments nonsense otherwise we're claiming to be gods or whatever horse dookie he's yammering about.
And somehow he expects to still be taken seriously after embarrassing himself like that.
You're free to disagree with my arguments, but dismissing them outright as "nonsense" without engaging with their substance is what I took issue with — and it’s not the first time it’s happened. That kind of knee-jerk dismissal shuts down discussion rather than deepens it.
I never claimed criticism of my posts was off-limits — but there’s a difference between debate and condescension. If I came off too sharply in my last post, fair enough, I own that.
Still, my point stands: equating Iran’s political system with that of the U.S. isn’t just a hot take — it’s a stretch that doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. Criticizing both is fair game, but pretending they operate on the same level of voter agency or transparency is misleading.
And nope, I am not feeling embarrassed, rest assured.
It isn't just that one post, you're consistently dismissive of people you disagree with, as though they couldn't possibly have well-founded reasons for taking the positions they take, but when you're treated the way you treat others you meltdown with rage.
When you're not dismissing other perspectives you're strawmanning them. See what follows 'Still, my point stands:...' for an example.
If you don't like being treated with dismissive condescension, don't engage in it. If you're going to rely on snark, condescension and derision assume you'll be treated in that manner as well.
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Yesterday, 12:12 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Nonsense. The US Presidency is more or less fixed the same way that the Iranian Presidency is. The only difference is whether it's a figure that we can identify, or it's a bunch of oligarchs that mostly try to remain hidden. The Democrats haven't even bothered to let the primary voters choose the candidate since 2008 and even then it was just because they couldn't rig things quickly enough to stop Obama from taking the primary.
This whole business of suggesting that they don't have a real government or that their votes don't matter at all is a bunch of lies. Yes, I would like to see them have more of a say in their own governance, but it's intellectually dishonest to suggest that there isn't at least some agency of the voters in terms of the range of options on offer, even if it is a narrow range.
I see a pattern in you and funeral, all other posts that don’t align with your views are “nonsense”.
Only you and your camp make sense. It exclusive for you. You are Gods, infallible, your opinions and info are never wrong.
The very idea of you suggesting that the “democracy” in Iran is remotely similar to the imperfect democracy in the US is just amusing and absurd.
In Iran candidates are literally handpicked by the Ayatollah in tinder-like style.
I have a serious suggestion, why don’t you live in Iran? You sound a big fan and you sound to really think that life there is better than in the US.
Has it not occurred to you that perhaps we're saying it, because your views are junk? I never said I loved Iraq, what I said was that the overthrow of Saddam and the Ba'athists was a massive mistake.
Just because you've got reading comprehension problems, doesn't change the fact that you're spreading a bunch of misinformation that is going to get people killed. Israel has no legal right to attack Iran, nor does the US, and manufacturing consent ultimately makes you complicit.
Yesterday, 12:16 am
cyberdora wrote:
I am aware Netanyahu has manufactured the the level of threat Iran's nuclear program has in the past. However do we know whether previous strikes on Iranian Uranium enrichment plants were successful enough to stave off their plans?
In case funeral and matchbox live in self selected denial, Russia and China have been in a proxy war with the west (that includes Canada and Australia) since the Korean and Vietnam war. they currently employ hackers who bombard western countries with viruses to hack confidential data. China in particular is sending spies for decades and recently caught Chinese scientists smuggling in contaminant biological material only weeks ago that would have decimated US food crops (further drawing suspicion about whether COVID19 was intentionally allowed to be released). It also puts a new perspective on Chinese spy balloons carrying a payload of biological weapons?
Both China and Russia have irresponsibly set up access to weapons to numerous Arab regimes and Iran ostensibly against Israel but as a proxy war against the US. In that respect I have zero trust in Iran's clerics and their intentions which obviously serve a long term goal for both Russia and China to weaken the west.
In case funeral and matchbox live in self selected denial, Russia and China have been in a proxy war with the west (that includes Canada and Australia) since the Korean and Vietnam war. they currently employ hackers who bombard western countries with viruses to hack confidential data. China in particular is sending spies for decades and recently caught Chinese scientists smuggling in contaminant biological material only weeks ago that would have decimated US food crops (further drawing suspicion about whether COVID19 was intentionally allowed to be released). It also puts a new perspective on Chinese spy balloons carrying a payload of biological weapons?
Both China and Russia have irresponsibly set up access to weapons to numerous Arab regimes and Iran ostensibly against Israel but as a proxy war against the US. In that respect I have zero trust in Iran's clerics and their intentions which obviously serve a long term goal for both Russia and China to weaken the west.
There was a treaty in place that Iran was abiding by until well after Trump tore up the deal that involved inspections of the facilities to ensure compliance. We're not in denial, we're just sharp enough to take notice of the fact that you've got no legs to stand on here and keep moving the goalposts around.
The fact of the matter is that Israel is the problem here, they're the ones that refuse to accept offers to address their claimed concerns about security and have gone about attacking countries with reckless disregard for the legality or necessity of it. They won't be satisfied until they take all of Greater Israel and remove the inhabitants from there by any means necessary. They've been doing it for decades and I see no reason to believe it's going to stop anytime soon.
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Yesterday, 1:22 am
funeralxempire wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
And boo's descended to playground tactics.
If you're opposed to Israel's aggression why don't you just marry Iran?
But yet, we're not allowed to call such bad faith arguments nonsense otherwise we're claiming to be gods or whatever horse dookie he's yammering about.
And somehow he expects to still be taken seriously after embarrassing himself like that.
If you're opposed to Israel's aggression why don't you just marry Iran?
But yet, we're not allowed to call such bad faith arguments nonsense otherwise we're claiming to be gods or whatever horse dookie he's yammering about.
And somehow he expects to still be taken seriously after embarrassing himself like that.
You're free to disagree with my arguments, but dismissing them outright as "nonsense" without engaging with their substance is what I took issue with — and it’s not the first time it’s happened. That kind of knee-jerk dismissal shuts down discussion rather than deepens it.
I never claimed criticism of my posts was off-limits — but there’s a difference between debate and condescension. If I came off too sharply in my last post, fair enough, I own that.
Still, my point stands: equating Iran’s political system with that of the U.S. isn’t just a hot take — it’s a stretch that doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. Criticizing both is fair game, but pretending they operate on the same level of voter agency or transparency is misleading.
And nope, I am not feeling embarrassed, rest assured.
It isn't just that one post, you're consistently dismissive of people you disagree with, as though they couldn't possibly have well-founded reasons for taking the positions they take, but when you're treated the way you treat others you meltdown with rage.
When you're not dismissing other perspectives you're strawmanning them. See what follows 'Still, my point stands:...' for an example.
If you don't like being treated with dismissive condescension, don't engage in it. If you're going to rely on snark, condescension and derision assume you'll be treated in that manner as well.
Go back some pages.
The disagreement started when Matchbox stated that the fall of Saddam was a bad thing; I told him the Iraq’s Shia and Kurds would disagree with him (two groups forming majority of Iraq) explaining him the reasons why.
And that’s all.
I wasn’t justifying Bush for “manufacturing consent for war” nor has anything with Israel and Iran. This is when Matchbox started to Nonsensing everything, THIS is dismissive.
Also saying “Nonsense” to Iran vs US’s democracy post; … I dunno, you read both and judge and let me know which opinion you see as “Nonsense”, do you also believe that US’ democracy (and freedom of life/speech) is as flawed as in Iran?
Quote:
When you're not dismissing other perspectives you're strawmanning them. See what follows 'Still, my point stands:...' for an example.
Huh? Saying that comparing US’ democracy to Iran’s political system is a stretch is now “strawmanning” .
This is a clear, defensible opinion, not a distortion of someone else's argument.
What is strawmanning to you?
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Yesterday, 1:24 am
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Nonsense. The US Presidency is more or less fixed the same way that the Iranian Presidency is. The only difference is whether it's a figure that we can identify, or it's a bunch of oligarchs that mostly try to remain hidden. The Democrats haven't even bothered to let the primary voters choose the candidate since 2008 and even then it was just because they couldn't rig things quickly enough to stop Obama from taking the primary.
This whole business of suggesting that they don't have a real government or that their votes don't matter at all is a bunch of lies. Yes, I would like to see them have more of a say in their own governance, but it's intellectually dishonest to suggest that there isn't at least some agency of the voters in terms of the range of options on offer, even if it is a narrow range.
I see a pattern in you and funeral, all other posts that don’t align with your views are “nonsense”.
Only you and your camp make sense. It exclusive for you. You are Gods, infallible, your opinions and info are never wrong.
The very idea of you suggesting that the “democracy” in Iran is remotely similar to the imperfect democracy in the US is just amusing and absurd.
In Iran candidates are literally handpicked by the Ayatollah in tinder-like style.
I have a serious suggestion, why don’t you live in Iran? You sound a big fan and you sound to really think that life there is better than in the US.
Has it not occurred to you that perhaps we're saying it, because your views are junk? I never said I loved Iraq, what I said was that the overthrow of Saddam and the Ba'athists was a massive mistake.
Just because you've got reading comprehension problems, doesn't change the fact that you're spreading a bunch of misinformation that is going to get people killed. Israel has no legal right to attack Iran, nor does the US, and manufacturing consent ultimately makes you complicit.
Read my post above.
No one said that you love Iraq btw.
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Yesterday, 3:14 am
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/u-s-la ... rump-says/
But there’s no visuals that confirm the Fordo’s destruction. It is too early to know I guess.
Yesterday, 3:42 am
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
The fact of the matter is that Israel is the problem here, they're the ones that refuse to accept offers to address their claimed concerns about security and have gone about attacking countries with reckless disregard for the legality or necessity of it.
I don't dispute Israel and the US aren't manipulating the news either to justify the strikes. the first casualty of war is the truth. but if a nuclear Iran are a long term danger then neutralising their capabilities will at least keep the region safe.
You criticise me for lacking ethics but I am only interested in keeping my family safe (like everyone else). The U.S.-Australia alliance is an anchor for peace and stability in the Indo-Pacific region and around the world. Both countries share a strong interest in maintaining freedom. For me a safe world needs a strong US and Israel is > strong China, north Korea, Iran and warmongering Arab states.
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