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24 Dec 2025, 8:49 pm

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Oh, did we ever get any actual examples of "conservative rap about loving trump and hating immigrants" or can we declare its all just made up?


I skimmed the entire thread just to be sure - you were the only person to even mention the idea of conservative rap being about loving trump and hating immigrants - most other mentions of conservative rap discussed being pro police, pro government, pro america, but nobody but you said anything about "loving trump and hating immigrants". If you wanna declare that conveniently very narrow and specific topic, that only you made up, as made up, go ahead - you're the one that made it up.

It comes across as a no-true-scotsman type of strawman, where unless it meets the very specific qualifiers set by you, it can't be taken as proof to the contrary. And since - according to you - even things like "eff the police" are "open to interpretation", there's no reason to think you won't "openly interpret" any songs provided in such a way that it says what you want it to say, rather than what it says.

Having said that, I have definitely heard rap music which was just some conservative dude complaining about minorities via racist stereotypes, etc.



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24 Dec 2025, 9:12 pm

Isn't there Jesus rap?



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29 Dec 2025, 1:23 pm

TBH I think rapping about electoral politics and political parties directly is kind of naff in both directions.

I think of top tier rap acts from across the age of the genre - Wu Tang, Mobb Deep, Nas, 2Pac, Biggie, to Simz, Truemendous, (Santan) Dave, Kendrick, even rappers as brutally honest in their left orientation and existentialism as Billy Woods... I don't know the whole discog for everyone here, I know select albums for a lot of the newer acts... do they really get into that? It just feels clunky and awkward in general, hearing the Obama-Obama-Obama track from 2009 or 2010. It seems like if you're a deep, polymathic wordsmith you tend to avoid anything that openly obvious and instead pound on more open-ended principles behind the problems, which also gets people thinking in a much more productive way.


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