Y'all should convert to Islam

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Is religious subscription like citizenship?

As long as there are no contradictions will Islam tolerate multi faith subscriptions? how about blended faiths?
[just rying to make a silk purse here...]

peace j

It is in Saudi Arabia. Local law actually says only Muslims can get Saudi citizenship. I wonder how you prove the government to be a Muslim ; everyone can make a prayer and fake some rituals but how do you prove yourself a Muslim?

Also, the country has callcenters calling foreign residents and trying to get them converting to Islam. A religious callcenter if you wish so

I'm guessing the same way that you prove your Christian to get married in the church, you probably have to get a certificate from them saying you had a ceremony and all that plus you probably have to have a Muslim priest to confirm you go to their mosque. But that's just a wild guess.

Lets not forget they probably check your foreskin too

Not necessarily. Circumcision is a tradition in Islam but no obligation as it is no duty mentionned in the Qu'ran. So circumcision is more like a tradition still practised and that is why most Muslims have it done. It is not an obligation though. I have several colleagues who converted to Islam and who did not have themselves circumcised.

Circumcision is only obligated in Judaism (they see the foreskin as a piece of imperfection that needs to be corrected before males can enter the convenant and be worthy of a jewish woman... Women having a jewish mother are automatically considered convenanted by birth. I think that is pretty sexist to be honest) but even in Judaism there is a movement coming up that campaigns for not having your son circumcised.



As for getting Saudi citizenship: I think indeed your Imam or local mosque can write a certificate saying you are Muslim. But what about newborn babies in Saudi Arabia? Law says all nationals must be Muslim, so if a Saudi-born person declares atheist... would he have his citizenship revoked and become passport-less?
At least Israel gives citizenship to everyone born in the country or having Israeli parents, regardless if the person if jewish or not.

Um... in Saudi Arabia a man can kill his wife or daughters if they do something he considers immoral. It's LEGAL to KILL WOMEN.
Sometimes they drown them in the family swimming pool.

Its just like accepting Jesus and becoming a Protestant. By the count of their own standards I'm a member of... 12 religions now. Pentecostalism, mainstream Protestantism, Islam, Discordianism, Buddhism, the Universal Life Church, Haruhism, the Jesus Christ Church of Rock and Roll, Thelema, Hermetics, Satanism, and Desuism. I'm actually an ordained minister of the ULC (by filling out a website form), both a Saint and a Pope of Eris Discordia (as are all of you, like it or not!), a Bishop of the Jesus Christ Church of Rock and Roll, and a High Priest and Heirophant of Desuism.

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what is this islam? are they responsible for this?

wow, you cannot go wrong and miss out on heaven. You serve so many gods that the right one MUST be amongst them

As for Saudi Arabia: they have wahhabism (one of the most extreme forms of Islam) and use no civil law, only Sharia. I read an interesting article today about the gay scene of SA. Although it is punishable by death to engage in gay sex, there is a big gay scene and people say it is even easier to be gay than to be straight. This is because of the strict islamic laws not allowing men and women to meet in public places, which of course makes dating a bit problematic.

Uh what is Desuism?

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You mean deism? Deism or theism is believing in god(s) whereas atheism is denying the existance of god. Monotheism is believing in one god whereas some cultures believe in more than one god.

I understand that I meant Desuism as in when coyote27 said "a High Priest and Heirophant of Desuism".

I guess one of my obsessions is knowing about a crap load of different religions but thats one I've never heard of and I couldn't find anything about it so I was wondering if it was real, a typo, or a joke.

this is a troll.