"Why I Am No Longer a 'Brain-Dead Liberal'

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Quoted For Truth.

The purpose of production is consumption, if we ignore that then we are worse off. Especially given that the costs of the government aid are less than the price differences.


The wealthy pays most of the tax money anyway. Perhaps they don't pay as much as they should as a percent of their income, but as a percent of the government income they basically pay a supermajority of it.


Umm.... the purpose of employers is not to pay a living wage but rather to organize production to fit our needs. Frankly, I am separating the purposes of purchasing and welfare and you aren't, so your models and my models really don't fit together well. Not only that, but a large number of people who work at minimum wages and such aren't the poor anyway, which I have already argued and stated that this is supported by figures at the CBO. This means that the living wage is pretty much already a bad welfare strategy and that paying twice is more efficient.


I haven't said anything about creating a government hiring hall. Not only that, but I don't see the problem in employers seeking to hire the best workers. Frankly, how much advertising do most companies use for jobs anyway? I have seen help wanted signs of services places along with many others. Not only that, but you still haven't really proven that living wages are better, most economists say that they are worse and a stupid idea.

Right, like it always has been. If you are buddies with a friend or a manager of some place, then you got an easy entrance too. Frankly, if you have friends in the right places, then it doesn't MATTER what set up we have, you are going to have an advantage over others. That is just how things work. The advantage here is not really that phenomenal "ooh, I have a guy who can help me get good low-skilled jobs", I mean, that is nice, and it is unfair, but it has very little potential to do major damage.

please hold, I'll be right back

It's supposed to rain in a few days, I'll be right with you.

Sedalia, MO

I've been there, Payless cashways warehouse, I drove for Crete carriers.

Thanks for the help Biff

had to side my own garage, tear down an old trailer, damn unproductive citizen I am

what where we discussing before work interupted things

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last april before the guy who built the garage pushed it down with his dozer.

last year, thanks for the help Biff

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now screw the slackers and their chump change do nothing retail jobs and EIC

didn't see them outside in 18 degree weather building a garage or doing a roof in the summer.

If i can manage to rebuild a house, except for the framing of the garage, hired a guy for that and ended up helping him, the two of use put up the 4 walls and he hired a 3rd guy to help get the roof up and shingle it, these slugs in this country can go break there azzes a little if they want something.

I would love to see some slug get one in

I don't really spend enough time at home to make that much of a fuss over it. I spend most of my time on-campus, working on one assignment or another if I'm not in class. Sometimes I just pack up a few changes of clothes and some dental gear, and I'll spend a few days catching my zees on the couches here in the library, taking my showers at the rec center, and so forth. I generally don't place much sense of attachment to the idea of "home." If I ever call a place home, it'll probably end up being my place of work. I don't really think about much else, save my boyfriend. Eventually, I'll probably become some resident doc. Permanently. My sleeping patterns are already pretty irregular, and I really prefer to live on "catch-as-catch-can" without much regard for the time of day. I don't like the idea of living the suburban life. Why would I when I could become a machine of purpose?

Johnnie, the Democrats uniquely want to take some of the tax burden off of your income bracket. The Republicans and the Democrats have approximately the same stance on the welfare state, with some exceptions. Like I said, true conservatism is dead in this country.

I used to be a migrant squater. Got old and priorities change.
My last one was in a subdivision, like living in a fishbowl, fixed that one up and sold it.
Real freedom is not HAVING to go to work.

No matter what people do in life, they have peer pressure to conform. So to be a top doctor or anything you have to look successful to your peer group to get ahead. Right address,BMW, nice cloths and not show up driving a vega looking like you sleep on a couch in your cloths.

Personally I could care less what the place looks like, but to fit in and get respect from people around here it's needed to have some class. A bonus is the value increases of the property instead of further declines.

wow you really have no clue at all. Comrade Clintoon raised my taxes and Bush CUT them.
My tax bracket hit 47.3% under comrade clintoon and that was just off the top before I spent a dime that was left and paid other taxes.Anything much over $30,000 was 47.3% tax during the 90's and to make sure more of my income was taxable comrade clinton cut the business meal expense from 80% to 50% so while paying high dollar prices in the truckstop while away from home on business and a captive customer because of driving something the size of the QE2 which needed a football feild size parking lot I'm listening to comrade clinton babble something about raising taxes on only the richest 1% and going after the triple martini lunch crowd.

a 10 year old can comprehend truck drivers aren't the richest 1% of americans, but the democrats can't.

The added kicker was saving some money and having some dividend income,interest income and capitol gains pushing more of my earned income up into the 47.3% tax bracket. So as punishment for trying to build up some net worth the dems stick it up the working classes butt. Once all my earned income was going to pay taxes i said why bother working, might as well work on my own houses and fix them up and sell them after living in them long enough to escape the capitol gains on them.

When somebody makes $100 or $200 an hour and the government takes half of it, big deal they are still making good money for their time. When it's under $20 an hour and the government takes half of it, that's robbery.

Enjoy your easy life bumming around college campus's taking some classes, sleeping in places the working class busted their butss to build for you, all the power to you. But don't think you are better than some street person because you got pulled out of the right crotch.

limousine liberals really have no clue and you sound like you fit the bill to a tee. All the pwoer to you in the world, but when you become a Doctor or whatever, you won't be paying because you will just pass the cost of social programs right down to the little people, at least the ones who work hard. The taxes won't affect your standard of living one bit, we the little people will pay more for health insurance so you can get a warm & fuzzy feeling like you actually pay taxes, but it's a fraud because you pass the cost right back to the working class by charging more for your services.

Don't be noble with other peoples money.