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24 Jan 2026, 6:43 am

What you saying


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24 Jan 2026, 6:55 am

I haven't been able to kill injured animals - animals hit by cars, mice who'd taken a neighbour's poison.

Nothing could be done for the animals. They needed to be put out of their misery. But I could not do it. So their suffering was prolonged.

From the animal's point of view, my inaction had the same consequence as a cruel action (infliction of pain).

I think it was wrong to the same degree as active cruelty because I don't see how it can be distinguished from active cruelty.



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24 Jan 2026, 6:58 am

Well that's something for you to work on then isn't it


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24 Jan 2026, 7:10 am

It definitely is. I'm taking a wildlife course later in the year that will hopefully help me make some inroads, although I'm not sure it's something I can do much with, to be honest. Still, got to try.



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24 Jan 2026, 8:24 am

Well you keep working hard on yourself sweetheart and one day you might be as spectacular as me


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24 Jan 2026, 3:05 pm

I would like that. Here's hoping.



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24 Jan 2026, 3:49 pm

kuen wrote:
I would like that. Here's hoping.


Shoot for the stars darling. You can thank me later

Bye for now


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24 Jan 2026, 8:32 pm

I have had that thought before. "babybird is very cool. I would like to be like her when I grow up."



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25 Jan 2026, 3:22 am

Yeah I mean we should PM sometime
You know so we're not derailing this thread with all of this

You be kind to yourself Kuen


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27 Jan 2026, 5:42 pm

babybird wrote:
You be kind to yourself Kuen


Thank you very much, babybird. You too please.



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28 Jan 2026, 5:19 am

I don't think I've seen anyone on this site use empathy quite like you do Kuen

You're quite formidable


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28 Jan 2026, 5:48 pm

I think maybe that is how I feel about it too.



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29 Jan 2026, 1:31 am

Then we understand each other


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30 Jan 2026, 3:35 pm

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I wonder if upbringing can have an effect on this as well

I think its quite easy to make an already sensitive child into an overly sensitive one by always pointing out how they are making other people feel

I knew a woman who used to tell her son that everyone was looking at him and laughing at him every time he cried or made a noise or had some kind of tantrum or whatever

He was a wreck later on in life because he thought he was more aware of other people's feelings than anyone else was
My girlfriend is extremely likely on the spectrum & was raised with some extreme religious like beliefs pushed onto her like thoughts have power & feeling pride is a sin; like if she has a negative thought about someone & then something bad happens to them it's her fault because she had the thought. Cass was basically taught that she's a horrible person if she could make others feel better but does not, especially when it's family.

Cass's brother W on the other hand had has been diagnosed with Aspergers since he was little. W had lots of health issues growing up & he experienced a bit of abuse growing up from being bullied at school. W & Cass are opposite extremes with empathy & sympathy. W is a bit of a narcissist who's very critical of others issues especially Cass's despite him also having some of the same issues. He's like a narcissist who hates himself & projects all his own issues onto other's, especially family. When Cass complains to him about things in her life or health he tells her she needs to just tough up & deal with it & other such harsh statements. However if Cass would do the same to him or come off like she is, he'll throw a massive fit. He complains to family about how bad his childhood was compared to Cass & their other two siblings but W does not seem to comprehend that the entire family household was majorly struggling due to raising 4 kids & their dad always being at work earning less the state minimum-wage to provide for all six of them. When debating W or contradicting him when he's wrong about something he gets mad & accuses Cass & family of always trying to start arguments with him. However W often contradicts things they say & accuses them of being wrong & a bit of those times he is the one actually wrong. In the past W has accused Cass & other family members of not loving him in order to get his way with things like when they get upset with his demands & him being being very critical of them or if they would try setting boundaries with him. Cass & family feel guilty & give in & let W get his way.

A major problem is that Cass is going there to visit W every month & stays a few nights there. He's demanding about the rules Cass & their mom have to follow while there. He has sometimes suddenly changed his rules without warning which started bad arguments with him & when they got upset W's response was something like he was just trying to push their buttons. W has never once came here to visit Cass. He claims he can not come here due to his agoraphobia but he goes out a lot in the town he lives in & interacts with lots of various people & so-called friends. Their other brother has offered to bring him here before. A bit of the jobs W had were in retail interacting with customers. That does not sound like agoraphobia to me but I do get that he experiences bad anxiety sometimes. Going out is hard for Cass because of her various physical & mental issues including her own anxiety but she pushes herself to spend a few nights with him every month. W often complains about Cass living too far away from him & for a long time now he's been pushing for Cass to move closer to him & the main reason he gives for her needing to move is that it would be a lot easier for her to visit him if she lived closer. Moving to W's town would be majorly limiting to both Cass & me due to things being majorly spread out & having an almost non-existent public transportation system. Instead of telling him she's not planning on moving Cass started telling him she's planning to in the future to pacify him & prevent an argument.

Cass has a one-sided relationship with her uncle as well but he's bipolar & schizophrenic & since his issues are not autism related I won't go into the relationship dynamics.

W is probably a major reason why Cass thinks I'm very easy for her to be with. Cass gives herself with close family & friends till she can not give anymore & then she kind of breaks down for a while. I readily admit that I have lots of various issues, problems, & faults. However I usually really try to help her how I can. I'm very protective of her, I try encouraging her to set boundaries & for her to speak up for herself more including with me. I know she can not be there for others like me & her family if she does not take care of herself as well. I feel very bad when she's upset but I'm sometimes very bad at figuring out what to do on my own without some directing. I know very d@mn well that I'm extremely lucky to have her because very few people would be as accepting, understanding, & supportive of me as she is.


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31 Jan 2026, 3:14 am

I went through severe childhood abuse and some forms of neglect. As a child they said I had conduct disorder. I don't have emotional empathy for humans. I have a fair amount of emotional empathy for animals though. I can't deal with descriptions of animal abuse. I have a cat at home. I take good care of her. I do have cognitive empathy for humans though. I think my childhood taught me some partial skills in reading people, because I had to read the signs of approaching abuse being hurled at me. However my friend said that I'm not super great at reading people, and another friend said that I'm on alert with people. I live a solitary life, so I don't get much practise with people these days.



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31 Jan 2026, 1:24 pm

I hate how empathy is valued more than compassion. I don't have to be empathetic or sympathetic to help someone - I don't even have to like the person.


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