Should autistic people date younger when it's NTs?
When I was working at a workshop in the early 90s, I was 20 when I got a boyfriend, he was 19, he was very immature 19 year old, I was almost 21. I was always interested in younger guys, I didn’t know about my Aspergers then. I’m 49, my ex-boyfriend is 43, on OkCupid, I’m interested in guys that are 37, but under 35 seems too young I guess.
My daughter's 14 and tells me off/corrects me all the time
No this is some random 3yr old girl...she was trying to be helpful
On a serious note: older NTs would actually be more mature/tolerant so it might actually be the other way around. An older NT male (for example) might be willing to make more allowances for an Aspie girl if she is younger.
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When I started dating, girls my age weren't interested in me. I was all into stability, security, finding a good future - and that wasn't what got their interest. I was 21 when I married a 29 year old (severely NT) woman - and we were married for 33 years. My wife passed away two years ago, and now that I'm 60 I won't even consider a woman under 55. On the dating website, the difference is obvious. Hardly any woman under 55 actually fills out their profile with anything other than canned responses and generics. Kids will be kids, I guess...
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Good advice
That said, she's less jaded than I am. So when me and her are out together, I have to exercise due diligence in shielding her from sketchy people. Like, when we're walking downtown, and a sketchy guy starts talking to her, I cut in and divert his attention onto myself. He gets why I'm doing that, because evolution. Which makes him lose interest. He doesn't want to talk to a jaded 36-year-old dude; he wants to talk to a cute young woman.
When I was in my early 30s before getting married I was friends with a girl who I was very attracted to but she always friend zoned me whenever I made my feelings known. Eventually I decided our friendship wasn't really working when she would share one too many of her one night stand stories with men who were really not very nice either physically or mentally. I kind of felt unappreciated.
There is an ongoing debate among NTs as to whether it's possible to be friends with a girl if you are both single. The answer is yes but that it's only possible when neither person is attracted to each other. If one party is attracted to the other and the other is not then no.
If you read your post you refer to your friend as a "cute young woman" and you intervene when a random guy talks to her. I think you feel you can be more than just a best friend.
When I was young (20-28) most of the woman interested in me more than physically were significantly older. I attribute this to their being mature enough to look past my AS weirdness.
After a certain age, most of the women interested in me more than physically were significantly younger. I attribute this to their being immature enough to look past my lack of my social respectability.
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I only intervene to protect my friend when the guy looks sketchy, and when you're in a big downtown, many are. I don't intervene if the guy seems cool or if it's a relatively safe setting, like a house party or a history museum. It's for her safety, and she told me she appreciates it. This friendship has the fun factor a relationship could never have. The only sad part is that in 5 years, this girl will be 30, and may start wanting the usual boring couple life.
Last but not least, sex disgusts me. Both from seeing what my friends turned into and from being on Effexor. So the incentive to get into a relationship is nonexistent. Plus, sex with her feels wrong somehow, because she's so nice.
Welcome to my world. You seem familiar with how married people live. Except my wife and I prefer to be loners and don't entertain.
Last but not least, sex disgusts me. Both from seeing what my friends turned into and from being on Effexor. So the incentive to get into a relationship is nonexistent. Plus, sex with her feels wrong somehow, because she's so nice.
Thanks for the extra information. I think if you really want to be her friend, let her make her own mistakes with men and only if she asks you then give your opinion. If she chooses to jump into a long term relationship then just be supportive. She would really love you to still be in your life as a friend (My sister is married but her best friend is male and the two have a mutual understanding to always be there for one another; also my brother in law is pretty open minded).
After a certain age, most of the women interested in me more than physically were significantly younger. I attribute this to their being immature enough to look past my lack of my social respectability.
Well as a fellow 50 something I am envious that younger females are still interested in you!
Must be the Sean Connery thing
Like I said, I was referring to situations when a stranger starts talking to her, not a romantic candidate. Like with the shoe polish guys. That's when I cut in and say something to get away. If the new guy seems cool and we're in a "protected" venue, like a museum, I let them talk, and pretend to get distracted by something shiny. I do feel like it's a bit more work to be friends with her than with a guy, but she's been a great friend to me, so it's worth it. Especially after the friends I thought I could rely on kicked me to the curb the minute they found serious girlfriends.
I told her about how much I value all my friends, and she told me she won't kick me out of her life when she gets into a relationship. Whether or not that will be true, time will tell. Turning 30 messes with people's minds like I couldn't believe.
It's interesting to hear you have such a mature relationship. But don't have expectations, men can be jealous and it's quite likely if she eventually settles then the other party will not necessarily be broad minded.
Keep yourself open to other relationships, whether male or female, you might be surprised how easily you can find invigorating and stimulating conversation and companionship with other people.
As an aspie, friendship is like dating, don't be put off if people might not connect with you. Just keep moving on, after all there's nothing to lose.
Must be the Sean Connery thing
I'm not Scottish, nor have I portrayed a famous secret agent on film. I'm actually surprised at the continued interest myself.
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To me, none of that is true when it comes to someone who's 21 and just about to leave home. However, someone who is 31 is all of those things to me. They've lived an adult life I haven't had yet and they're competent socially in a way that I'm not, therefore prone to being able to manipulate me.
So surely in my case - it's more healthy emotionally for both of us for me to go with someone younger?
My dad was 26 when he married my mum who was 19. She was very emotionally mature and NT. He had mental issues and was autistic. He was the one who wasn't cut out to be a dad yet (in fact I'd say he never fully matured and I spend a great deal of time parenting him rather than the other way around). I'm not saying she took advantage but I am saying I don't think he took advantage, I don't think he was capable of it. I'm also saying the lack of maturity and competency he had/has meant he should not have been a husband or father.
The exception to this is if it's someone else who's autistic or someone who has mental issues that makes them emotionally immature and socially unable to cope.
Am I being a prick for thinking like this or am I being logical?
Your premise isn't necessarily logical. Emotional intelligence isn't always age related. Recently I had a 3 yr old give me a lecture at the Melbourne Zoo about etiquette regarding pressing buttons on a zoo enclosure. And she was right
Kids really can't be more emotionally competent than adults in the way I mean.
What I mean is ability to manipulate etc. An adult of 25 could easily manipulate me. I'm scared of that in dating. Even though I'm oldest. So an adult of 21 is better to date because they're similar emotionally.
Kids tend to be more moral than adults imo but imo that has to do w their innocence. So the opposite.
I think ppl get more corrupt as they age.
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Hmmm I suppose the laws of statistics make it more likely a younger person is less sophisticated or competent in the art of manipulation but this is really confounded by a person's upbringing, personality and other factors. I have experienced the worst manipulation as a teenager but I supposed if you are older you might be able to screen for this trait easier in younger people.
Keep yourself open to other relationships, whether male or female, you might be surprised how easily you can find invigorating and stimulating conversation and companionship with other people.
