Walmart is evil, and other rants about big business.....

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DO you HATE walmart?
yep 30%  30%  [ 13 ]
yep 30%  30%  [ 13 ]
no 11%  11%  [ 5 ]
no 11%  11%  [ 5 ]
we dont have one (thank gosh) 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
we dont have one (thank gosh) 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
wish we had one 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
wish we had one 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
whats walmart? 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
whats walmart? 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 44

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15 Jan 2006, 12:26 pm

I'm too ignorent about economics in general to place judgement over walmart. However, i have no true morals, i just do whatever i can get away with (and sometimes you can get away with some truely selfish and cruel s**t because nobody really understands the implications of their actions) so in the case that walmart is somehow evil in a way that society supports, i find that amusing.


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15 Jan 2006, 12:56 pm

Thank you, psych and SB2 for the info.

I don't think you need to view boycotting Walmart as a moral issue and then use the excuse that you're not moral. It's an issue of responsibility and civic duty. I've just taken a college history class and seen the value and danger of capitalism. Unrestrained immoral capitalism is negetive and a deterent to freedom. But capitalism with a civic responsibility is what makes America great. You can study this in the history of America and it bears out pretty easily.

It really is true, what the Forefathers said; American democracy will only work for a moral people.
If America fails, it will be because her people became immoral and complacent.
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15 Jan 2006, 1:05 pm

(No, I'm not answering my own post!)

Sorry, I forgot to add something.

I know that Walmart is THE cheapest store there is. And believe me, I'm poor! I could qualify for gov't. benefits. I have six children and we live on only my husbands income which is about barely enough for a family of four. BUT, I am very stubborn and I will not shop Walmart anymore. I will search out bargains elsewhere, or pay more and do without some things. I feel very strongly about these things. I do not want to support something that is a detriment to our nation and our neighborhoods, which I believe Walmart is, and be a part of the problem, just for the sake of saving a few dollars. I would encourage everyone to investigate this a little and give it some serious consideration. A non-chalant attitude is not going to benefit anyone here; except Walmart.

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15 Jan 2006, 1:32 pm

Sophist wrote:
I despise any business which values profit above its employees and/or its customers. One can see that in employees not receiving company insurance and in the cheap quality of most products these days. Walmart, I'm sure, is as bad as any of them.

The pharmaceutical companies also anger/scare the sh** outta me. Greed which likely will go to any lengths to get what it wants. It's sickening.

I wouldn't mind taking the owners out of just about every HUGE company and horsewhipping them. Top 10% owning 90% of the wealth. French Revolution, anyone?


We won't be so lucky to have that happen in our life. I wonder how long it would take to get to the point of 1984. It would be interesting to see it happening. Pending any disaster or sudden extreme change to our culture, it is not something that may happen, it is something that will happen.



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15 Jan 2006, 4:32 pm

http://www.phonelosers.org/wal-mart/
:lol:

This one is perfect for my justice thread. My favorite prank.
http://www.mentallyincontinent.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=120


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15 Jan 2006, 7:18 pm

WAHAHAHHAAHAH that is brilliant!! wahahahaah! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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15 Jan 2006, 8:03 pm

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I will probably be gone for a few days, thanks to your link.

Too much fun to be had.

*clicks the submit button whilst doing an evil laugh*


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15 Jan 2006, 8:55 pm

All of my friends at college love Wal-Mart. I really try to avoid going there when I need something, but seeing as I have no car, I end up going to Wal-Mart. I really don't like going there for a number of reasons. When I go back home, my mom and I shop elsewhere, because like me, she too hates Wal-Mart.


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16 Jan 2006, 2:42 am

There is no wal-mart where I live at, but whenever I visit my parents and they go to wallyworld I feel like a rat in giant cage.

Wal-Mart works because no matter how much damage they do to business, or people and environment people dont see it. They only see the cheap low prices dangling in front of them. Its a fact that most people will always choose instant-gratification.



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16 Jan 2006, 6:10 am

Comkeen wrote:
There is no wal-mart where I live at, but whenever I visit my parents and they go to wallyworld I feel like a rat in giant cage.

Wal-Mart works because no matter how much damage they do to business, or people and environment people dont see it. They only see the cheap low prices dangling in front of them. Its a fact that most people will always choose instant-gratification.



That is the point and it is shortsided to support Wal-Mart.

As they keep on growing and open up more and more stores and creating more jobs (with crappy wages and no benefits).
And as they keep driving away the competition.

All those people who only have Wal-Mart type jobs, will only be able to afford Wal-Mart type crap.

I wish that we could all stand together against their harming ways, and just refuse to go.

If everybody who thinks they are evil, greedy and corrupt would tell a friend and have them do likewise, it would only take about 1 year for them to comply with the demands of the consumer.

They would offer better jobs, with benefits and sell better product. Yes it would cost more, but prices would be relative to wages, and if the wages were better, then people would have options.


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16 Jan 2006, 8:58 am

Crucible wrote:
Sophist wrote:
I despise any business which values profit above its employees and/or its customers. One can see that in employees not receiving company insurance and in the cheap quality of most products these days. Walmart, I'm sure, is as bad as any of them.

The pharmaceutical companies also anger/scare the sh** outta me. Greed which likely will go to any lengths to get what it wants. It's sickening.

I wouldn't mind taking the owners out of just about every HUGE company and horsewhipping them. Top 10% owning 90% of the wealth. French Revolution, anyone?


We won't be so lucky to have that happen in our life. I wonder how long it would take to get to the point of 1984. It would be interesting to see it happening. Pending any disaster or sudden extreme change to our culture, it is not something that may happen, it is something that will happen.


Society is too apathetic to ever form an opinion which isn't dictated by the media. :?


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16 Jan 2006, 3:34 pm

Sophist,
I am wondering...
Knowing what you stated about media mind control; Does the same apply to you?

is it unavoidable since they have got it down to such a science or, do we actually have free will of the mind?


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16 Jan 2006, 6:33 pm

You must remember it is the business to make money that said, Yes some go to far to make money by doing what they do. Wal-Mart and Pharmaceutical Companies and ones like them have gone to far trying to save money to make more money. Our Society today has allowed this to happen it does matter or not if We like it in the end but in the end it does. Society will need to change its spots or We will be going down the slippery path for sure. Change has to come from within itself and when it will what to change then it will. It is a matter of WILL nothing more or less than that in the end. If majority what cheap goods and service that is what they get in the end. If You want goods and services that work then that is what You need to buy then. If Wal-Mart keeps selling such cheap goods and they don't work or are so cheaply made that everybody has to bring them back then Wal-Mart then will not make any money in the end. For it needs to make it goods that sells work not the other way around. It is up to Us to decide what We want not the other way around. Many have gotten used to the Wal-Mart ways for sure. It in the end will have to be that Wal-Mart will want to change in the end not the other way around. The only way Wal-Mart will change is when it sees that what it is doing in the end is not working in the end. Only then will Wal-Mart change.


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16 Jan 2006, 7:41 pm

kevv729 wrote:
You must remember it is the business to make money that said, Yes some go to far to make money by doing what they do. Wal-Mart and Pharmaceutical Companies and ones like them have gone to far trying to save money to make more money. Our Society today has allowed this to happen it does matter or not if We like it in the end but in the end it does. Society will need to change its spots or We will be going down the slippery path for sure. Change has to come from within itself and when it will what to change then it will. It is a matter of WILL nothing more or less than that in the end. If majority what cheap goods and service that is what they get in the end. If You want goods and services that work then that is what You need to buy then. If Wal-Mart keeps selling such cheap goods and they don't work or are so cheaply made that everybody has to bring them back then Wal-Mart then will not make any money in the end. For it needs to make it goods that sells work not the other way around. It is up to Us to decide what We want not the other way around. Many have gotten used to the Wal-Mart ways for sure. It in the end will have to be that Wal-Mart will want to change in the end not the other way around. The only way Wal-Mart will change is when it sees that what it is doing in the end is not working in the end. Only then will Wal-Mart change.


Yes, but we have established that Wal-Mart makes nothing (but profit), and the only thing they sell is (Space).
Aren't the workers entitled to a fair portion of what they produce.

Wal-Mart produces a business plan, the employee puts that plan into action. By the hard work of the emplyees, Wal-Mart produces weath.
And they keep a major poprtion of that for themselves.

In my opinion, an un-fair portion.


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16 Jan 2006, 9:12 pm

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As long We (Society) allow our Governments and Companies do the things they do it will not matter at all in the end. When Companies just see the bottom line only and just make that the only Economic System. We (Society) will have to change this in the end if We (Society) will benefit form the Economic System We (Society) have allowed in the end.

You needed to read what I wrote between the lines so to speak.


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