Is it Weird LGBT is next to Kid's Crater?

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14 May 2011, 4:27 pm

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One of the particularly awful things about being LGBTQetc and a teen is often the lack of support and information available. One of the problems is the characterization of these topics as not appropriate for children.


Have you noticed that heterosexual people talk about sex all the time, but they seen to not be conscious about it?


Yes, I have. I like to point that out when straight people start complaining about how talking about a non-straight orientation is supposedly bringing sex into the conversation, but they will turn around and brag about their SOs, talk about their children, basically... it's all invisible to them.

I love your post here. :)

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22 May 2011, 2:11 am

That's a weird question lol

hmmm...

Don't know the correct answer


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22 May 2011, 2:22 am

why - if i may ask - does any human being - regardless age, ethnicity, culture, race, sex, sexual preference or whatever - need any restriction on knowledge?

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22 May 2011, 2:29 am

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why - if i may ask - does any human being - regardless age, ethnicity, culture, race, sex, sexual preference or whatever - need any restriction on knowledge?

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I like this... yeah... They do this in University too, restrict year one to this _____ and year two to a little bit more and year 3 for a little bit more.

Would be good if there were no restrictions hmm....

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22 May 2011, 2:33 am

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Is it weird LGBT is next to Kid's Crater?

I am not saying it is bad or anything. It just seems strange to place it here because our community often goes into deep discussion about things of a sexual nature (or things that might be kid inappropriate).

Thoughts?


Perhaps it should be higher up in the forum listings at the opposite end, only to get more hits, more publicity. It is a fair way down to scroll.
To justify this you could talk about sexual nature of the forum.


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31 May 2011, 7:56 pm

Good question. I never really paid attention, so I guess it's not that weird.



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01 Jun 2011, 12:12 pm

kiwi wrote:
To justify this you could talk about sexual nature of the forum.


That is what I meant. Thank you.

I mean, I don't think there is anything sexual about saying "I am a girl and I like girls", or "I am a boy and I like boys" but we do get into discussions that are more involved.

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One of the problems is the characterization of these topics as not appropriate for children.


True. I was brought up thinking it was inappropriate to talk about anything sexual (including sexual orientation for both hetero and homo couples) with people 10 or under. Maybe I was more sheltered than most?



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01 Jun 2011, 3:29 pm

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True. I was brought up thinking it was inappropriate to talk about anything sexual (including sexual orientation for both hetero and homo couples) with people 10 or under. Maybe I was more sheltered than most?


Sexual orientation? So no one talked about husbands or wives, or their girlfriends or boyfriends around children? And no one talked about having kids? And no one talked about marriage or dating or the like?

I can't even imagine it's possible to get away from the pervasiveness of heteronormativity, because these things are everywhere, it's just not labeled as part of heterosexuality because that is reduced to "wants to have sex with members of another sex" while homosexuality expands to become everything even peripherally related to same-sex attractions.

I'm not trying to call you out, I just do not understand how it is possible to completely excise everything about sexual orientation from children's awareness.



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01 Jun 2011, 9:36 pm

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Sexual orientation? So no one talked about husbands or wives, or their girlfriends or boyfriends around children? And no one talked about having kids? And no one talked about marriage or dating or the like?


What I meant by sexual orientation was pursuing someone solely due to what genitals they happened to have or what gender they appeared to be. My parents did not discuss this with me when I was little. They simply said "some people are attracted to each other".

My parents described people having "special relationships" depending what they were looking for. They described marriage as when two grown ups decide to spend a long time to the rest of their lives with each other. They described dating/boyfriends/girlfriends as a way to see if they wanted to spend the rest of their lives with each other.

You can talk about husband, wife, two husbands, two wives, girlfriends, and boyfriends without involving a discussion about sex and gender.



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03 Jun 2011, 2:20 am

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What I meant by sexual orientation was pursuing someone solely due to what genitals they happened to have or what gender they appeared to be. My parents did not discuss this with me when I was little. They simply said "some people are attracted to each other".


But this is not what sexual orientation means. Presumably it frequently relates to both sexual attraction and romantic desire - not just who you want to have sex with but who you want to be in a relationship with.

I see what you meant in that your parents didn't discuss sex with you.

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My parents described people having "special relationships" depending what they were looking for. They described marriage as when two grown ups decide to spend a long time to the rest of their lives with each other. They described dating/boyfriends/girlfriends as a way to see if they wanted to spend the rest of their lives with each other.

You can talk about husband, wife, two husbands, two wives, girlfriends, and boyfriends without involving a discussion about sex and gender.


Actually, you can't. Gender comes into it automatically. Husband, wife, girlfriend, and boyfriend are all gendered terms that imply a particular gender.

Children are inundated in gender, really. I am not sure how you could avoid it.

My parents never told me about sex. I read informational pamphlets from Planned Parenthood when I was six months old. My mother made the mistake of taking me along with her without making sure I had anything to read, so... well, there you go. I didn't understand a lot of what I read until years later. My mother asked me once when I was 11 or 12 if I wanted to talk to her about sex, and I just said, "No, I know how it works."



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26 Nov 2011, 12:30 pm

Most gay adults have known they were gay since they were very young, like myself. It's just another category for this
forum. I wish I had the internet when I was young, feeling like I was the only gay person in the world. I think its good that young people can
access this very informative forum.



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01 Dec 2011, 12:49 pm

I agree that gay and questioning youth need MORE information available to them. This is NOT a porno site, its a chat site/message board site. It is so sad that in the US many libraries and schools have such restrictive web blocking software that even innocent sites about the girlscouts or boyscouts or even sites about kittens are blocked!

I think if we are serious about ending suicide among young gays,,, we need give them MORE information.
When I was a young teen, and depressed, I thought I was the ONLY gay in the village. Kid's today have soooo much more info available, which is great. They need more resources. More people saying it's okay to be gay.

There is an ADULT ONLY discussion group on here, so the LGBT group can be open to all, and anything questionable should be posted in the ADULT forum!