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What Should I Do?
Poll ended at 02 Jul 2011, 3:25 am
Seek Leagal Action 56%  56%  [ 10 ]
Just live with it and be happy if they decide to even keep me 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Fight diagnosis 33%  33%  [ 6 ]
Do nothing an hope for the best 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 18

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03 Jun 2011, 12:24 pm

I think that most of the time your full of nonsense. You aid terrorism in public morale. I think that ultimately it's a bit sick in that you think your rationale is complete and it comes off as a bit arrogant. Your the kind of "aspie" although not quite as extreme as some that makes the other "aspies" politically look bad with their abortion rhetoric and wanting to fight back with an eye for an eye that is a bit lost to objectivity. I mean you fully believe the nonsense so why bother talking as the thick fog of delusions are present.

Is there a point in bothering with debating you or are you always going to resort to exreme depictions and side with more so terroristic behavior. I'm just waiting for you or the likes of you to post an aspie manifesto. For the love of hatred because of some kind of diluted world-view and a twisted one that just does not add up.


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03 Jun 2011, 3:12 pm

Can anyone tell me what Ci eh? stands for ?

may be if we take the aspie out of agent we will get a little closer to the truth.

dont you just love it when the sins of the oppressors are projected on to those who just want truth and justice ?

I havelalready been character assasinated with the labels ant semite ,terrorist , communist and whatever other smear this pseudo asp can drag up !

do carry on agent vet ,lets see how low a governemnt flunkie can go when in damage control. :lol:



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03 Jun 2011, 5:08 pm

I think you put your own foot in your own mouth far enough that anyone else doesn't need to call you on it because it's obvious.


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03 Jun 2011, 5:22 pm

Autistics are always loose cannons when it comes to military service. Although the autistic Einstein's invention of the atomic bomb may have been instrumental to victory in World War 2 nevertheless Einstein was sorry for his invention because it caused a lot of Japanese suffering so no wonder Einstein never got security clearance. I remember after Vietnam that the military tried to appeal to the different mindset by advertising the armed forces as peacekeepers but I bet todays military thinks that peacekeepers are wimps. What I would like to see is the military use non lethal weapons to control riots and insurgents but I bet todays military brass would call me a traitor and a commie.



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03 Jun 2011, 5:26 pm

Being around military for a big part of my life I can say what you see in movies or in boot camp videos is not really like how it is. There are many compassionate men and women in the military and well our culture especially with video games seems to glamorize the blood and guts at times. War seldom people enjoy and there are always bad apples but when they are caught they are dealt with. When in active combat most anyone is going to beef up their mentality to face what is at hand.

I do not buy into the idea that aspie = hippie or yuppie redneck type or even a hippie geeky kind of folk or rather a redneck geeky with hippie tendencies.


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03 Jun 2011, 9:07 pm

And besides the autistic does not know how to follow military orders. When the commanding officer instructs the autistic to install a 0w30 viscosity engine oil in a piece of military equipment the autistic installs 0w50 engine oil because the autistic thinks that 0w30 is just the minimun specifications and there is no upper limit on the viscosity of the oil. And needless to say this drives the officer crazy.



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03 Jun 2011, 9:10 pm

Yeah figuring out VCR's and putting things together like desks and chairs is hard so someone else does it. But why do you call me a pathological term. Media calls me specifically it and I am preparing an internal education campaign that when I am mentioned that to try and use a different word please.


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03 Jun 2011, 9:28 pm

But it is the autistic that does the best job at following military orders to the letter and the spirit. When synthetic military grade artic engine oil was first introduced it was specified as a 0w20 grade oil only because that was the limits of the technology at the time. But there was even in the letter of the orders no upper limit of the viscosity as long as the oil met the 0w grade. However when 0w30 oil was invented neurotypicals were afraid to use it because they felt it violated military orders which called for a 0w20 oil. Todays military specifications call for 0w30 oil but since there are no upper limits on the oil radical grades such as 0w40, 0w50, 0w60 could theoretically be used.



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03 Jun 2011, 9:31 pm

Well when applicable you are correct. I personally am best at routine and when that includes also specifically what I am really good at thats even better. However they will not allow individuals with autism to serve. So I serve the best interest of those like me in the community. This also has spirit and others do it as well so those are the orders.


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03 Jun 2011, 10:53 pm

The military does not allow autistics to serve because of the illusion that autistics cannot follow orders. But in reality autistics follow orders correctly.



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03 Jun 2011, 11:04 pm

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The military does not allow autistics to serve because of the illusion that autistics cannot follow orders. But in reality autistics follow orders correctly.


First prove the military said that then prove all people with autism follow orders and are capable of the orders.


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03 Jun 2011, 11:46 pm

To give another example during the Vietnam war is was touted as the war against Communism. But it wasn't a war against Communism at all. America was founded on Communism as practiced at the colony at Plymouth rock and there is plenty of communist propaganda hidden in bible verses handed out by the Military Chaplaincy. What it really was was a war about freedom. That people should have the freedom to choose which economic system that they wanted to live under rather than have it be forced upon them. So I guess that means that I am a traitor and I can't follow orders.



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04 Jun 2011, 12:17 am

androbot2084 wrote:
To give another example during the Vietnam war is was touted as the war against Communism. But it wasn't a war against Communism at all. America was founded on Communism as practiced at the colony at Plymouth rock and there is plenty of communist propaganda hidden in bible verses handed out by the Military Chaplaincy. What it really was was a war about freedom. That people should have the freedom to choose which economic system that they wanted to live under rather than have it be forced upon them. So I guess that means that I am a traitor and I can't follow orders.


Well I cannot figure this out. 8O


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04 Jun 2011, 3:05 am

Excellent input androbot . clearly another free thinker who has the ablity to think laterally .

The official history of Americas colonisation is full of rewrites and romantic guff .

The puritans were not escaping religious persecution. It was simply the case that they were so rabidly fanatical and fundamentalist that they considered if incest was good enough for Abraham (who slept with his sister and TWO DAUGHTERS ) well then it was good enough for them too. As a result ,their behaviour was widely considered as repugnant by the majority of English people at the time. So nobody really missed them when they set off for the colonies where they could witch hunt with impunity. And still do ...........

A very good aspie friend of mine ,raised in the mormon church, sufffered repeated brutal sexual abuse by her father , a mormon priest . Along with her three sisters .

many aspies served with distinction during the war in highly classified operations, units and squadrons because their out of the box thinking gave them the edge over germanic by the book warfare .

I know because My family was at the cutting edge then as now in weapons developement and deployement. So much of the real story of ww2 still remains highly classified simply to avoid political embarassement to the US.

Without the genius of these people ,the Germans would have got nuke warheads in to v1/v2 rockets and the war would have ended very differently.

Thats another reason why the neocons hate us .We made fools of them then and we still do now.



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04 Jun 2011, 3:09 am

Allot of input that cannot be proven, is assumed and thus the assertions and said facts are unprovable. This kind of conversation is simply manipulatory and seemingly avoidant of many kinds of rational thinking styles let alone core standards in analytic reasoning. To think outside of the box you first have to base your thinking from inside a box. Out of this world let alone box from this planet story telling fantasy is however the conclusion.


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04 Jun 2011, 5:36 pm

ci wrote:
Allot of input that cannot be proven, is assumed and thus the assertions and said facts are unprovable. This kind of conversation is simply manipulatory and seemingly avoidant of many kinds of rational thinking styles let alone core standards in analytic reasoning. To think outside of the box you first have to base your thinking from inside a box. Out of this world let alone box from this planet story telling fantasy is however the conclusion.


Dont you just love it when the guy in the box screams 'give me proof' ? Dude ,you cant see anything close to proof until you stop skulking in your little corner and start living .

You'll be telling me next that ww2 never happened and was in fact a figment of my imagination . What am i saying ? you already have. Forgive me.

All we get from you is politically correct double speak , a mask of intelectual superiority and a shotgun approach to marginalsing anyone who's dialogue doesnt gel with your agenda based posting.

There's just no way a real aspie would engage the way you do .

No wonder the gov does not like aspies on the front line. We see it like it really is. we dont indulge in your orwellian double speak and character assasination .

You want proof ? go find it yourself like I have. I have reams of documentation and personal experience to draw on . And next time you take a domestic plane trip ,ask yourself how you would feel if the TSA did an invasive pat down on your baby daughter or GF .

how can you wrap your self in the flag when elected officials are tearing up your constitution in front of your face ? Beats me.